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San Antonio cop shoots 17 year old for "Eating while not driving" (OP edited to own error)

Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:48 am
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
20260 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:48 am
ETA: I got this wrong, but am leaving the original phrasing intact to both own the error and to make sure readers understand what others are referring to.

The cop did NOT have the gun drawn when he opened the door. He seems to have only pulled it after the kid reacted. He still handled it badly, but that is only part of the story.

I posted this after watching it once, then got into my day.

I apologize unreservedly for the error, and for the arguments it precipitated over exactly what happened.



I saw this on the Twitterz and thought it had to be wildly out of context or a flat out fabrication. Nope.

Cop thought a parked car he came upon was one he had chased the night before.

Walked up with gun pointed at driver, pulled the door open, and surprised a kid inside sitting there eating a burger. Tells him to get out. Kid panics and turns back toward the interior of the car. No idea what he was about to do, but cop unloads on him.

Kid eventually throws the car in gear and drives off. Ends up in critical condition.

For those of us (myself included) that are generally inclined to side with cops, this is a counterpoint. There actually are too many poorly trained, jacked up dudes out there.

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This post was edited on 10/7/22 at 12:26 pm
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:50 am to
Damn.
Posted by BengalOnTheBay
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:51 am to
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For those of us (myself included) that are generally inclined to side with cops


We moved past this point when local cops started arresting pastors for having church and sending helicopters to snatch people paddle boarding in the ocean a mile and a half from the next closest human being.
Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
21094 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:51 am to
That looks pretty terrible. Jesus.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
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Member since Aug 2021
26113 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:53 am to
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. Kid panics and turns back toward the interior of the car


This is the headline.

Not the stupid lie that he was shot for eating while not driving.

Good grief.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119560 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:54 am to
I don't even know what the victim could have done in that situation to prevent getting shot. The cop was so on edge and the slightest movement by the victim prompted the cop to shoot. The victim was totally surprised so of course he made a sudden movement but it wasn't ANYTHING that should have caused the dumbass cop to shoot.
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:55 am to
Feel bad for the kid, glad he's not black, because when the EXACT SAME THING that happens to non-black kids happens to black kids, it's "racist".
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:55 am to
The kid didnt even have time to process who was opening the door and freaked out.

Cop needs to be in jail and certainly not a cop.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119560 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:56 am to
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Ends up in critical condition.


Hope he makes it. After getting well he should be set for life.
Posted by swolverine
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:57 am to
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This post was edited on 12/21/23 at 1:30 pm
Posted by SUB
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Member since Jan 2009
21094 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:58 am to
On second look, you hear a "OW...frick!" from the cop before he opens fire. At first I thought maybe his foot got ran over, but I think it was the open door hitting him.

I'm not excusing the cops actions, just providing more context of what may have lead him to opening fire...I'm also not saying that was appropriate either.
This post was edited on 10/7/22 at 9:04 am
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
12929 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:58 am to
quote:

Cop thought a parked car he came upon was one he had chased the night before.


How do you even get out thinking you can make an arrest based on this?? Part of the job is making arrests. You have to have a clue what you can arrest people for. And part of that is putting yourself in the DA’s head for at least two seconds.

Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20532 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 8:59 am to
quote:

SAPD rookie James Brennand initially said he fired his weapon after the teen suspect struck him with his vehicle, according to police reports obtained by MySA. However, body-cam footage posted by the department appears the teen, who's recovering in hospital, never struck the officer.
Cop fired for being a lying pile of shite. Should be charged with attempted murder.

*this is all you need to know for all the boot lickers here, the cop fricking lied to save his arse.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
18817 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 9:01 am to
I lived through an TLDR story where the cops made a crazy mistake but we complied and only got a little roughed up. Some of us were possibly on active duty and intoxicated so we didn’t file any complaint
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
43183 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 9:02 am to
This is outrageous - no excuse.

But, it is a blip compared to the entire panoply of cop interactions.

For every one of these unacceptable incidents, there are millions of extraordinary heroism, and hundreds of millions of normal/caring behavior.

To even mention this incident in the realm of police brutality 'issue' is a red herring. It does nothing to bring closure to the 'issue' - since he 'issue' is totally fabricated in the first place - so all it does is stir the shite pot for all to endure the sickening odor.

Find a profession - ANY profession - that is 'more honorable' than police --. in the sense that there are ZERO atrocities.

Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/7/22 at 9:04 am to

Is there more context to this?

It's looks bizarre.
Posted by THog
Member since Dec 2021
2254 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 9:05 am to
Looks like the wrong color to be a national issue.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
3072 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 9:14 am to
I'm inclined to side with that. But with all the videos of people reaching back, which usually does indicate someone reaching for something, that reaction is not surprising.

Cops are not cold blooded, but I do believe their is an instinct to survive and not knowing which interactions you have with the public could turn deadly.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
13131 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 9:16 am to
Police Departments need to hire a team of lower level psychologists to continuously view high stress training and livestream body cams.

They need to start flagging officers who perform poorly under stress before more innocent people experience this stuff. Those flagged officers should work desk jobs until they pass remedial training and earn the approval of more accomplished psychologists.

Most people with only a psychology degree are probably baristas anyway. Cities need to outbid Starbucks for their services.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96911 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 9:22 am to
Ever seen Casino?

“What gun? He had a fricking hero sandwich!”

“Well it was dark and it looked like a gun…”

“You a-hole! I’m gonna be filling out paperwork for two weeks because of you!”
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