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Tennessee’s defensive statistics are misleading

Posted on 10/6/22 at 12:39 pm
Posted by StatMaster
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 10/6/22 at 12:39 pm
Tennessee has the fastest offense in the country and therefore each team averages WAY more plays per game and therefore the defense is going to give up more yards and points. Traditional statistics do a poor job of reflecting a defense’s actual effectiveness related to the amount of plays the defense has to account for. Points per drive is a much more accurate measure of a defense. Tennessee is ranked 24th in the country in this category. LSU is ranked 14th by comparison. I do not predict LSU is going to somehow discover an offense against Tennessee, but they will have more opportunities to score.
Posted by Daemon Targaryen
Member since Aug 2022
238 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 12:42 pm to
Tennessee has a worse defense than State and Auburn for sure. Probably FSU too
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 10/6/22 at 12:43 pm to
Doesn't that mean that LSU's offence is going to get more opportunities for plays?
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6687 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 12:49 pm to
I don't think Tennessee's defense is any better than Mississippi State's, and we figured out how to move the ball in that game in the second half. It just comes down to the quarterback making the right plays. If he goes into a shell, there's nothing anyone can do for him. But receivers do need to catch the ball when they are given a chance.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
16676 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 12:49 pm to
Tennessee has the 21st ranked rush defense. We will have to take advantage of their pass defense. Jayden needs to take more chances.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
15030 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 12:50 pm to
LSU has an inchoate offense led with no QB.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 10/6/22 at 12:55 pm to
We got that from your first 100,000 posts today. For fricks sake you can stop how.
Posted by classicgold
bfe
Member since Feb 2017
6489 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 1:00 pm to
It bodes well for us that they play fast on offense and keep their defense on the field. We have owned the 4th quarter this year. If the Vol defense is worn down, we have a huge opportunity to gash them in the 4th quarter to pull away late.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
8951 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 1:02 pm to
Stats, at this point of the season, don't tell a whole lot about how good a team is, especially for a team like TN that has played two legitimate teams.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
15030 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 5:27 pm to
I will keep saying it until it changes. Too bad if you don't like it.

Posted by tiger81
Brentwood, TN.
Member since Jan 2008
20931 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 5:29 pm to
Their secondary is weak....throw the ball down the field, it will be there.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19694 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 5:33 pm to
quote:

Traditional statistics do a poor job of reflecting a defense’s actual effectiveness related to the amount of plays the defense has to account for.
this is true. Traditional "yards per game" is far too simplistic, actually for both offense and defense.

I'd say "yards per play" is the most relevant stat for both an offense and a defense.
Posted by HarsinVol
Auburn AL
Member since Oct 2022
31 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 5:47 pm to
Yes, even less than stellar defenses can make that adjustment.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
65923 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 6:04 pm to
If you’ve seen them play you know that isn’t true.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
20397 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 6:55 pm to
MSU's defense is a lot better than Tennessee
Posted by Geauxldrush
Member since Jul 2022
510 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 7:08 pm to
quote:

Tennessee has the 21st ranked rush defense. We will have to take advantage of their pass defense. Jayden needs to take more chances.


Pitts RB averaged 6 YPC against them…
Posted by TFS4E
Washington DC
Member since Nov 2008
14156 posts
Posted on 10/6/22 at 7:16 pm to
quote:

Tennessee has the 21st ranked rush defense. We will have to take advantage of their pass defense. Jayden needs to take more chances.

The flip side to this is other teams haven’t needed to run because they’ve had a lot of success in the air. Not saying that explains the whole thing but sometimes the yards don’t tell the story.
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
15030 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:49 am to
Let's hope so.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
4115 posts
Posted on 10/7/22 at 10:56 am to
quote:

I'd say "yards per play" is the most relevant stat for both an offense and a defense.


Points or yards per drive would be better.
Posted by Bayoutigre
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Posted on 10/7/22 at 11:12 am to
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