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re: Qb play sucked, but what are people seeing with Nuss?
Posted on 10/2/22 at 11:32 am to easy money
Posted on 10/2/22 at 11:32 am to easy money
Howard will start next year anyway. Doesn’t matter.
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Posted on 10/2/22 at 11:33 am to tiggerthetooth
You gonna give me his stats or more excuses? Cause this is the problem the put Nuss crowd in has. They talk a lot of shite about JD but when asked what has Nuss done yall say what about JD bad game. All i ask was you to give me Nuss stats that's better than JD .
Posted on 10/2/22 at 11:33 am to Fat Bastard
You hope
Posted on 10/2/22 at 11:35 am to LSU-DUDE
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All i ask was you to give me Nuss stats that's better than JD .
And then use the victim mentality of “he needs first team reps”
Put up or shut up when you are in the game.
Think you should be the starter? friggin show it and earn it when you get your shot
Posted on 10/2/22 at 11:35 am to Adam Banks
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And Daniels brings an ability that nuss doesn’t have
And it hasn't helped him or our offense improve as a unit one lick. He's running as good as he can and it's not helping and in some cases might even hurt.
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Running and lack of turnovers.
I've never seen a good offense paranoid about turnovers. You try to score however you can instead of playing scared to give up the ball.
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Last night was clearly his worst game at LSU. Prior to that he had been unspectacular but solid.
Last night showed he should be under question as an uncontested starter. I think Nuss deserves some meaningful snaps, at minimum and I think he should be allowed to start a game. Daniels is at his limits at this point and we know because he's been a starter for 3.5 years and he hasn't improved as a passer.
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Which qb would you rather. Jayden Daniels vs auburn or nuss vs southern
Nuss vs New Mexico. But really I'd like to see what Nuss does when he's allowed to start and gets 1st team reps in the week before.
We've seen Daniels enough already. Can the passing game do worse than 80 yards? I don't think Nuss is that bad.
This post was edited on 10/2/22 at 11:37 am
Posted on 10/2/22 at 11:39 am to easy money
I mean has Nuss really been given a chance at QB? He has played mop up duty a few times. Tried to impress against southern by forcing throws, came in cold last night due to injury to Daniels. He sailed a few and had a few dropped. Daniels has not looked good at all against Avg teams. In fact he looks like he is regressing. Dude would run every play if they let him.We have seen daniels in 3 games that mattered and his passing is below avg. How much have we seen of Nuss in games that mattered? none.
If you need to see more Film on daniels just pull up his ASU videos and its pretty much the same as his LSU games.
Check 1st progression guy if wide open throw if not tuck and run. That wont work against better SEC teams. People are hoping to see a guy that can throw a 10 yard accurate pass maybe to a 2nd option. A guy that will do more than run around and only look for his first read. This Is what we are hoping to see with Nuss. We wont know until he gets a game or two under his belt.
If you need to see more Film on daniels just pull up his ASU videos and its pretty much the same as his LSU games.
Check 1st progression guy if wide open throw if not tuck and run. That wont work against better SEC teams. People are hoping to see a guy that can throw a 10 yard accurate pass maybe to a 2nd option. A guy that will do more than run around and only look for his first read. This Is what we are hoping to see with Nuss. We wont know until he gets a game or two under his belt.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 11:39 am to tiggerthetooth
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And it hasn't helped him or our offense improve as a unit one lick.
Well the team is 4-1 and everyone is complaining that the receivers don’t get the ball and that our running backs fumble so we have had to have gotten SOME productivity from SOMEWHERE so that leaves Jayden running the ball.
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Nuss vs New Mexico state.
Daniels vs Mississippi state if we are going to present non relevant answers to a question
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what Nuss does when he's allowed to start and gets 1st team reps in the week before.
Typical.
Can’t produce with his practice wide receivers and backs against a swac defense but he deserves first team practice reps
This post was edited on 10/2/22 at 11:41 am
Posted on 10/2/22 at 11:40 am to easy money
Dont worry they will shite on Nuss soon he plays a full game. Just the way of the fans here.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 11:41 am to FLObserver
He forfeited an opportunity to start last year.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 11:41 am to Iam_PrinceAkeem
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im almost like f it start him a game so they can see all of the turnovers.
O did that in the Arkansas game last year. Nuss' play was the sole reason LSU lost.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 11:42 am to tiggerthetooth
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Nuss brings an ability that Daniels doesn't have.
What is it? Honestly.
Being a gunslinger isn’t an ability. His production is notably worse than Daniels’s over nearly 100 attempts.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 11:43 am to Adam Banks
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Well the team is 4-1
Thanks a lot to turnovers and the defense. Last night was a great example of turnovers winning that game. We didn't score enough on offense to win the game.
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and everyone is complaining that the receivers don’t get the ball
Rightfully so.
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we have had to have gotten SOME productivity from SOMEWHERE so that leaves Jayden running the ball.
That's the only thing he's proficient at and it's going to be limited by his ability to throw and how many hits he takes. He's reached his limit as a passer.
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Daniels vs Mississippi state if we are going to present non relevant answers to a question
Yes and everyone thought he was improving but now we see he's trending in the opposite direction.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 11:43 am to easy money
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I only remember the Boutte drop, but there may have been a 2nd with Nuss. He was literally just throwing quick outs.
The other drop from Nuss was to BTJ. Hit him right in the chest and he dropped it. Killed the drive.
His drops were perfect throws, Daniels drops were off the fingertips. Different kinda drops.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 11:44 am to Adam Banks
Yea but we didn't "win" against FSU. That's kinda important.
Nothing against JD personally but does anybody wonder why Ashford in his 2nd start ever looked much better than JD? I mean, 1 is a 3rd string QB and the other is tarting for his 4th straight year.
Brooks pulled out the victory with his timely take-away. The defense even scored our 1st TD. We won despite JD last night, not really because of him. I'm going to venture to say that last night's game is the only game we're going to win with 80 yards total passing. LOL
The bigger question is why can't we recruit or develop Bb's? Auburn played a 3rd string QB that looked considerably better than our starter.
Nothing against JD personally but does anybody wonder why Ashford in his 2nd start ever looked much better than JD? I mean, 1 is a 3rd string QB and the other is tarting for his 4th straight year.
Brooks pulled out the victory with his timely take-away. The defense even scored our 1st TD. We won despite JD last night, not really because of him. I'm going to venture to say that last night's game is the only game we're going to win with 80 yards total passing. LOL
The bigger question is why can't we recruit or develop Bb's? Auburn played a 3rd string QB that looked considerably better than our starter.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 11:46 am to RUFshreve
Yes, I remember now. Quick slant.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 11:47 am to slackster
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What is it? Honestly.
A better arm and the opportunity to grow as a player than Daniels has been granted over 30+ starts. Nuss hasn't started a single game. Not one. Daniels has had 30+ starts.
Who is more likely to grow as a passer with playing time going forward, Nuss or Daniels? You can even see Nuss throw better passes and everyone said the same thing here but accepted that a "bad OL" required a running QB.
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Being a gunslinger isn’t an ability. His production is notably worse than Daniels’s over nearly 100 attempts.
Again, you keep treating playing time in blowouts or mop up duty the same as getting 1st team reps and starting.
Why is Daniels being given the benefit of the doubt over 30+ starts of no progression but Nuss is being trashed for extremely limited playing time in meaningless games?
I think Nuss deserves a shot. Certainly don't call him the de facto starter but Daniels isn't going to cut it in the passing game.
Posted on 10/2/22 at 11:47 am to Adam Banks
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And Daniels brings an ability that nuss doesn’t have
What...to piss off the best receiver in the country because he can't get him the ball downfield?
Posted on 10/2/22 at 11:49 am to tiggerthetooth
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Thanks a lot to turnovers and the defense. Last night was a great example of turnovers winning that game
So you now agree turnovers are relevant yet want to put in the more turnover prone qb.
Makes sense.
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That's the only thing he's proficient at and it's going to be limited by his ability to throw and how many hits he takes. He's reached his limit as a passer.
His limitations have gotten us to 4-1 which with several winnable games on the schedule to meet or exceed expectations as a team. I’ll gladly take his play for the season on a whole for the rest of the year. Somehow you can parse out games for nuss but can’t do the same for Jayden
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Yes and everyone thought he was improving but now we see he's trending in the opposite direction.
In his first sec road game which was a win.
Everyone needs to take a lesson from Saban
Posted on 10/2/22 at 11:49 am to tiggerthetooth
Lol you right throwing interceptions
Posted on 10/2/22 at 11:50 am to ellis197575
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Yea but we didn't "win" against FSU. That's kinda important.
Strange to make that argument, when we're talking about a game LSU just won.
Oh, and Daniels was the reason we had a shot at OT in the Fla State game. He didn't kick the extra point, or try to field punts. He wasn't trying to cover Fla St WRs on 3rd down.
All he did was make plays any way he could, to bring us down the field to score at the end.
We don't have a great QB on the roster right now. Hopefully Howard develops onto that.
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