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US Military Campaigns by Casualties
Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:54 am
Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:54 am
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It seems like the Western Front was more dangerous than the Pacific contrary to popular opinion.
Also, China has a lot of US blood on its fingers
It seems like the Western Front was more dangerous than the Pacific contrary to popular opinion.
Also, China has a lot of US blood on its fingers
Posted on 9/12/22 at 8:57 am to Palmetto98
Western front had larger scale fights.
Pacific Front was uglier on a battle by battle basis but you didn’t have many large scale casualties simply because it was island hopping and I don’t think they lost too many big boats besides the Indianapolis after Pearl Harbor.
Pacific Front was uglier on a battle by battle basis but you didn’t have many large scale casualties simply because it was island hopping and I don’t think they lost too many big boats besides the Indianapolis after Pearl Harbor.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:00 am to Palmetto98
Also crazy how we lament thousands dead when the Russians had millions die. Not saying we shouldn’t mourn them but holy shite did the Russians throw their people into a meat grinder.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:02 am to Palmetto98
I think the casualty rates were higher in places like Saipan, Pelilue and Iwo. There were hundreds of thousands of troops involved in a lot of the European campaigns.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:03 am to Palmetto98
Scroll up to battles. WBTS battles dominate. Crazy numbers.
Also, thankfully the US came in the WW1 very late. Some of those campaigns had staggering losses for both sides.
The Somme- 141 days, 1 million killed or wounded
Verdun- 9 months, 700k casualties, 300k killed
Also, thankfully the US came in the WW1 very late. Some of those campaigns had staggering losses for both sides.
The Somme- 141 days, 1 million killed or wounded
Verdun- 9 months, 700k casualties, 300k killed
This post was edited on 9/12/22 at 9:11 am
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:04 am to CrownTownHalo
Yeah there were areas of France, Canada, England, etc, that had fricked up gene pools due to losing so many men in that generation.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:06 am to teke184
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Western front had larger scale fights. Pacific Front was uglier on a battle by battle basis but you didn’t have many large scale casualties simply because it was island hopping and I don’t think they lost too many big boats besides the Indianapolis after Pearl Harbor.
I feel like people just see the western theater as D-day and that’s it. It was actually pretty brutal with a lot of urban combat and setbacks. The Germans didn’t mess around at all lol.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:06 am to Palmetto98
We really don't have many KIA considering how many wars we have fought in. Most places in Europe and Asia have KIA in the millions if you add up their wars. Many places break a million just from WW1 or WW2 alone. Or in China, some random rebellion you've never heard of that killed millions.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:12 am to red sox fan 13
Russia lost around 1.7million in ww1
Germany close to 2mill
France 1.3
UK 800k
Germany and France lost 4% of their total population (including civilians )
The Turks lost up to 15% of their population which is insane.
WW1 Wiki
Germany close to 2mill
France 1.3
UK 800k
Germany and France lost 4% of their total population (including civilians )
The Turks lost up to 15% of their population which is insane.
WW1 Wiki
This post was edited on 9/12/22 at 9:18 am
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:13 am to jlovel7
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but holy shite did the Russians throw their people into a meat grinder.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:16 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Darth Vader has discussed this before. ETO was much more dangerous than the Pacific for the American fighting man.
I think the 8th AF's KIA rate, not casualty rate, was something over 20%.
I think the 8th AF's KIA rate, not casualty rate, was something over 20%.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:16 am to Palmetto98
The German civilians were scared shitless of what opposing forces would do to them.
Which was true in the Russians’ case but German civilians were shocked that US soldiers mainly wanted them to prove the food and drink weren’t poisoned then to go sleep in the basement all night so that the soldiers didn’t have to worry about getting their throats slit while sleeping.
Which was true in the Russians’ case but German civilians were shocked that US soldiers mainly wanted them to prove the food and drink weren’t poisoned then to go sleep in the basement all night so that the soldiers didn’t have to worry about getting their throats slit while sleeping.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:24 am to jlovel7
Including civilians, Soviet deaths in ww2 26 million.
Soviet Wiki
Belarus 25% of its population
Russia around 13%
Ukraine 16%
Soviet Wiki
Belarus 25% of its population
Russia around 13%
Ukraine 16%
This post was edited on 9/12/22 at 9:27 am
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:48 am to CrownTownHalo
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:01 am to jlovel7
The Russians made things incalculably worse for themselves when they killed millions of their own during the purges. Many of their competent military commanders were killed, which left poor leadership, and caused higher than necessary casualties.
Their military structure was also rigid and inflexible (a problem that persists today) which contributed as well.
Their military structure was also rigid and inflexible (a problem that persists today) which contributed as well.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:04 am to Buryl
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The Russians made things incalculably worse for themselves when they killed millions of their own during the purges. Many of their competent military commanders were killed, which left poor leadership, and caused higher than necessary casualties.
Their military structure was also rigid and inflexible (a problem that persists today) which contributed as well.
Russian history is depressing af
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:34 am to SuperSaint
That gif always reminds me of TH03, wonder what happened to him
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:37 am to Palmetto98
quote:
It seems like the Western Front was more dangerous than the Pacific contrary to popular opinion.
Not the body count. It was the fighting conditions.
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:50 am to Palmetto98
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It seems like the Western Front
Was legendary, rather small battlefields with massive casualties. It had to have been hell on earth.
Your own men would shoot you if you didn't go over the top.
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