Wokeness in movies/TV. How does it affect your viewing experience?

It’s like if you were watching a movie and someone came up to you and farted in your face, then left. Sure, the smell will go away eventually but it’s gonna be all I’m thinking about the rest of the movie.

I mean it singlehandedly killed comedies. Looking at my DVD shelf now where I own over 100 comedies, and only 7 of them were made in the past ten years and none of them in the previous three (Jojo Rabbit being the newest).

The wokeness themes usually require removing you from any coherent storyline. The race and gender swaps are easier in that regard because you dont need to add-in anything to explain someone's race or gender usually. Race/gender swaps can't kill a good story because they speak for themselves, you can see the race/gender, no scenes or dialogue required.

Its when the activist writers have to display other more complex woke themes like 3rd wave feminism, critical race theory ideas, LGBTQ activism, globalism etc. themes where it takes time and removes you from the story.

Think the casino storyline from the Last jedi. It had an obvious socio-political commentary that was completely useless to the overall story. It had it all, rich people bad, military contractors bad, animal rights themes, the works.

Hollywood has always injected left wing cultural-biases and political propaganda into their products, but the latest social trends are much too difficult to keep people engaged IMO.

Another example are the demands by LGBTQ activist groups to include LGBTQ characters in every show.

How can you depict an LGBTQ character without showing their behavior of being attracted to a particular gender/sex? You can't. You have to write-in story-lines and/or dialogue that make it clear as day to the audience that a character is LGBTQ. It takes time, you have to film particular scenes, you have to write in particular dialogue, you have to hire actors/actresses to act in those scenes, you have to rehearse everything, find sets/backgrounds that fit the story, etc.


Its not a simple add-in, it has the entire chain of production attached to it and it requires a separate space for it to exist within a story because most stories aren't written to center themselves around sexual orientation the way LGBTQ people see their existence completely centered on their sexual experience.

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I find myself watching less lately because of it and spend more time doing other things. They’re forcing it way too much and most of the time it has nothing to do with the story.

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This is the reason I wait until after a season to take in new shows, if it is material I truly care about.

I haven't watched a second of Rings of Power or House of the Dragon, because I am waiting for the season to be over to get real reviews

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I find myself watching less lately because of it and spend more time doing other things. They’re forcing it way too much and most of the time it has nothing to do with the story.

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Yeah im the same. Its become too predictable and they always input the same themes.

Some racial theme, feminized men, masculinized women, a very clear LGBTQ person, something about corporations are bad, and how "main group" can't possibly relate to or understand the "minority group" (usually centered on racism themes or typical feminist "all men bad, all women good" fantasies).

I remember in the last jedi the majority of the "resistance" (funny how it was the rebellion and then Hillary Clinton dubbed herself apart of the "resistance" after 2016 and then the Last Jedi employed the word) officer personnel was human females.

The entire star wars franchise is supposed to be a part of this massive galaxy with thousands of creatures and species yet the majority of the officer core on this ship was female humans.

Then you had purple-haired Laura Dern basically saying to Oscar Issaac "I dont need no man" for very stupid reasons in the show.

Then you have Rey, a woman, as the main character. The main character of Rogue One was a woman. The main character of the campaign mode in the Star wars battlefront was a woman.

You can clearly see between the storyline choices, the words chosen, the scenes, the actresses, everything was designed to promote female empowerment within star wars.

I didn't need to watch anymore to see where the next movies/shows would go. They already showed their hand and even if a show/movie goes in a thousand different directions I know where they want it to end up. I know what message they want to send, which for Katheen Kennedy and the people she employed "men to the back, women to the front".

Hollywood cares about their activism more than their ability to entertain at this moment. This will be true as long as they have the money rolling in, and they have had billions coming in for a long time now and it'll take a pretty good while until activism takes a backseat to entertainment for the sake of profit again. Additionally, I don't think the Hollywood community really believes people will stop giving them money, and looking at how filthy rich they've become over the decades I can see why they'd believe in an endless spicket of cash coming in.


People should recognize there are 2 things HEAVILY promoted in the film industry right now, "representation" in their actors to the people behind the camera which typically involves non-whites and LGBTQ people.

The other HEAVILY promoted aspect is the "female empowerment". It doesnt matter what the story is about expect there to be a female empowerment aspect, whether its a female in a leadership positon, or a female in a STEM position, or a masculinized female in a warrior/fighter position. Just expect female characters to be almost anything but gracefully feminine and expect that they will show scenes where a woman triumphs over a male figure. You dont even need to know the background/plot to know these types of elements will exist somewhere in the story.


Hiring female directors, female writers, female producers, etc. is also a very prominent theme. Its how you end up with the feminist themes in the first place in a way. Kathleen Kennedy is the PERFECT person to get involved in such things.

Turn it off immediately not gonna support stupid think

That is quite a post

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did you blink an eye when Vader, the Emperor, Obi Wan, Luke, and Han Solo we’re all white male humans in the first Trilogy

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Vader was a white guy? For what? 2 seconds in the very last episode?

The Emperor was a white guy? He was a deformed monster. I dont think many people ascribed any race to him. It wasn't until the prequels that we even had an idea on what he was supposed to look like, and we didnt even know he was deformed.


And did you forget Lando Calrissian or Leia? You seem to have cut those 2 characters out, or how about the iconic Wookkiee known as Chewbacca or the robots?

The existence of prominent females wasn't bathed in a resentment feminism as it is today, and they were also allowed to be gracefully feminine.

Its like the female characters of today....hate being female.

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Vader was a white guy? For what? 2 seconds in the very last episode? The Emperor was a white guy? He was a deformed monster. I dont think many people ascribed any race to him. It wasn't until the prequels that we even had an idea on what he was supposed to look like, and we didnt even know he was deformed.

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They’re both white. Idk what to tell you.

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And did you forget Lando Calrissian or Leia?

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Lando is a secondary character and he’s not in the first Movie at all.

Leia is the exact kind of female character you hate.

But the point is, if you want to make the whole “it’s a universe full of alien as and there all human women” argument how can you fricking ignore that all 3 trilogies predominantly on white humans, and the first 2 are focused heavily around white males.