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Different take on Jackson’s water system issues: institutional racism

Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:27 am
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:27 am
I know way way more about this than I should, and unfortunately can’t discuss any of it.

I don’t agree with a lot that’s in this article but there is zero doubt that white flight out if the city is a primary cause. Now was that flight the result of just racism or people fleeing a terrible school district, a corrupt and terrible city government, rising crime etc. Basically moving to the burbs to have better quality of life. (Basically what is happening to Mobile right now and what happened to New Orleans in 70s)

Also they completely failed to mention the Siemens water meter disaster that caused a complete underfunding of the system. Siemens dumped these faulty remote water sensors on small cities and towns throughout the South after getting run out of Chicago and California because we are apparently stupid enough to buy the bullshite they fixed them. Why take a loss on them when you can sell them to some other suckers. They settled the suit for 95 million which was about 300 million too little and after attorneys fees had 60 million which I assume they embezzled or something. Don’t buy them people. (Of course Mobile and Prichard installed them few years ago cuz we be stupid.)

Box article on water system


This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 11:29 am
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
28512 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:29 am to
I've never heard anything before being blamed on "institutional racsim," that's a new one.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
59323 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:29 am to
Ok
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
266220 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:30 am to
quote:


I don’t agree with a lot that’s in this article but there is zero doubt that white flight out if the city is a primary cause


This sounds like youre saying "without white people the system doesn't work?"
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
69811 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:30 am to
quote:

there is zero doubt that white flight out if the city is a primary cause.
So because one group of people moved to a different area, that means they’re responsible for the people that stayed not keeping the system properly maintained?

This is hilariously stupid
Posted by Hangover Haven
Metry
Member since Oct 2013
27979 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:33 am to
Democrat run city described in one pic...


Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23018 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:33 am to
Institutional?


I thought it was systemic?

I'm confused by all the different types of racism.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
25684 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:34 am to
Much like Flint, it's not a racism issue, it's an economic issue. It just happens that most of the folks there are economically challenged. There are many small rural towns in this mostly white state that are facing the same challenges.
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:34 am to
How long have democrats been running that shithole.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
72103 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:35 am to
I think it’s okay to let black people have their own cities and safe spaces. Just don’t come complaining when your shite falls apart.

Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55812 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:38 am to
Maybe if heavily black places weren't shite holes, people wouldn't mind living around black folks.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
8998 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:42 am to
Systemic racism does play a part—racism by black leaders like the current mayor.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
67430 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:45 am to
We need the evil whites who work and pay taxes to stay in our crime ridden areas so they can save us from ourselves. But we still want to rob and kill them because they are racists. Is that about right?
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51859 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:47 am to
The blame is incompetence, greed and corruption.


You can put any label on it you want to but that's what it boils down to.
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
51658 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:47 am to
I have not kept up too much, I did see Dikumba Mutumbo mayor on the news. This is not impacting residents in Madison? Ridgeland? Just the actual city of Jackson?
This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 11:49 am
Posted by Great Plains Tiger
Member since Sep 2005
238 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:52 am to
But what about Wakanda?
Posted by wartiger2004
Proud LGB Supporter! JESUS IS LORD,
Member since Aug 2011
18367 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:58 am to
So your username is Tuthill is that in reference to the Tuthill area in Mobile? If so you should be familiar with the booming metropolis that is Prichard, AL? Was it racism that caused that waterboard commissioner to use the cc for personal shopping sprees or was it the fact they were a complete POS and did not care about there customers?
Posted by CoastLSUFan
Member since Nov 2010
728 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 11:58 am to
The article said less tax revenue led to not having sufficient funds to maintain the water system’s infrastructure. Does the city not bill its residents for water usage? Shouldn’t the revenue from water bills be used toward infrastructure? What happens when people don’t pay their water bills in Jackson? In my city, they cut off your water if you don’t pay. Also, are people not paying because they are broke, or are people not paying because they refuse to pay for an inferior product (water that must be boiled before it can be consumed), or both?

I know that I am likely oversimplifying a complex issue, but I just don’t see how the rest of the state or nation should be responsible for the failure of Jackson’s water supply.
This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 12:04 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
58463 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 12:00 pm to
The last seven head men in Jackson, Mississippi (not in order):







Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
50209 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 12:17 pm to
So an almost entirely black city run by black people can't function properly and it's white people's fault?
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