re: What you do not understand about college cost

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It’s what you said

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Include your entire claim. Here, I'll help:

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It’s hilarious that you tell me it’s a good thing students are footing the bill in one post and then telling me the market needs to punish them in the next.

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It's a good thing that students are footing the bill because that's a market pressure. That is a standalone claim that you dishonestly tried to link to my next statement about punishment.

I did not say that they should be punished, period, end of sentence, I said they should be punished for shitty choices. Perhaps you'd prefer a system where shitty choices are NOT punished and people are free to repeat them with no consequences, or perhaps even a reward as the turnip seems hell bent on giving them, but I don't think that system works very well.

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The market pressures

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The market pressured students to pursue degrees with bleak career outlooks and low earning potential?

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then society has a responsibility to support those individuals.

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What kind of brainless, poorly educated nonsense is this?

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Government subsidies.

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As the chart shows, it’s about how colleges are subsidized. When it was basic state appropriations, college was inexpensive. When they moved to a federal “funding follows the student model” that so many dumbasses want for our elementary and secondary schools, prices exploded.

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#HINT: has nothing to do with worthless degrees and lazy young people.

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but it does, it costs the university money to have worthless degree programs.

You have universities with women and diversity centers that no one uses that are staffed with people with worthless degrees.


its not the only issue but its part of the bloat.

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Government subsidies.

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Government entering a marketplace to "reduce" costs or make "more affordable" ALWAYS has the opposite outcome.

See medical costs since Medicare/Medicaid enacted.
See higher education costs since GSLs

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I don’t understand why colleges charge so much tuition to lazy young people for a worthless degree

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This is kind of something I've been thinking about.

If they charge the same amount for an undergrad in any program, and tuition followed the rising wages of the most successful programs, the ones with a slower or very little trajectory are going to end up overpaying for the product they received.

Tie tuition to the average starting salary of the family of careers associated to the degree. A reasonable fixed amount for the overall university offerings, then varying rates based on the path you take.

Maybe this has already been tried or considered and I don't know the pitfalls of this approach.

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Tie tuition to the average starting salary of the family of careers associated to the degree. A reasonable fixed amount for the overall university offerings, then varying rates based on the path you take.

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Absolutely. But then the Professor in the Social Work department isn’t going to make a living wage.

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Nope, the data does not support your conclusion. Subsidizing reduces cost to the student, not increase it.

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If you looked at that chart and came to that conclusion you are an idiot.

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Is that why you can’t answer everyone accurately pointing out how stupid your ‘market pressures are making students take out loans they can’t afford to get useless degrees’ dumbassery is?

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We’re seeing increases in the price of tuition across the boards so all schools are worse options.

The market pressure Flats said was a good thing because it would make schools
Compete has done nothing to curtain tuition.

And then he said it was a good thing student we’re punished for taking out loans. So basically he’s cheering on a system that hurts students and made college for everyone less accessible.