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re: Troubling statement from The Gospel Coalition.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:04 pm to the_truman_shitshow
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:04 pm to the_truman_shitshow
Good lord.
This board has turned into such a shitshow.
This board has turned into such a shitshow.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:08 pm to the_truman_shitshow
Moral Relativism continues its diabolical relentless destruction of absolute truth.
This post was edited on 8/8/22 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:11 pm to 3nOut
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read an instagram post by them discussing "my company is taking up money and having us sign a card for a gay couple getting married. i'm being targeted for not joining in."
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:15 pm to the_truman_shitshow
Jordan Peterson has really helped me understand what the word “Sin” means in the first place. It’s an archery term that means “missing the mark”. And he explains things through the logos which allows me to understand the natural order of things and why certain activities, deeds, or thoughts are “sins”.
It’s also not lost on me that the Spanish word for “without“ is sin.
Living a life without “sin” is an understanding for ourselves to live a life that reduces the suffering and gets us closer to God (or the natural order of things…aka…the logos). It has nothing to do with judging other people. It has everything to do with us understanding for ourselves that we are “missing the mark”. At least that was my aha moment when the light came on for me.
It’s also not lost on me that the Spanish word for “without“ is sin.
Living a life without “sin” is an understanding for ourselves to live a life that reduces the suffering and gets us closer to God (or the natural order of things…aka…the logos). It has nothing to do with judging other people. It has everything to do with us understanding for ourselves that we are “missing the mark”. At least that was my aha moment when the light came on for me.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:16 pm to the_truman_shitshow
TGC has gone full worldly woke.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:20 pm to RebelExpress38
I don't seek man's approval - it's nice when it happens, but if you get a whole lot at once, make sure it's because you're doing the right thing, not the popular thing.
Even our best is as filthy rags. Rather than self-loving, we need to humble ourselves. The realization that we can never be worthy, but can be given grace nonetheless is more comforting than a Stuart Smalley pep talk in the mirror.
As Jesus pointed out, the world rejected Him, so how can we expect acceptance while acting as He did? The only kind of acceptance or adulation we should desire is that from a starving, miserable world grateful for the Bread of Life we offer to them.
Even our best is as filthy rags. Rather than self-loving, we need to humble ourselves. The realization that we can never be worthy, but can be given grace nonetheless is more comforting than a Stuart Smalley pep talk in the mirror.
As Jesus pointed out, the world rejected Him, so how can we expect acceptance while acting as He did? The only kind of acceptance or adulation we should desire is that from a starving, miserable world grateful for the Bread of Life we offer to them.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:25 pm to oklahogjr
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Sounds like they're preaching loving another despite their sins. Good for them
Yeah but Jesus also told the woman to go sin no more. Point is, of course we are to give second chances and love the sinner but by the same token, that doesn’t give a free pass when the sin is blatantly continued.
This post was edited on 8/8/22 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:27 pm to Crimson1st
quote:Loving others despite their sin - good.
Yeah but Jesus also told the woman to go sin no more. Point is, of course we are to give second chances and love the sinner but by the same token, that doesn’t give a free pass when the sin is blatantly continued.
Thinking that our love is what they need more than repentance and salvation - narcissistic, cowardly, and evil.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:28 pm to Pettifogger
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I've attended tons of large conservative SBC churches, and never experienced this stuff. Perhaps small rural GA SBC churches are all hellfire and damnation around the clock, but if so, how are so many people claiming to be "harmed" by these tiny churches with tiny congregations?
We always had the revivals pass through once a year or so. They definitely had more of a hell fire and brimstone tone to them than the regular weekly sermons. Having said that, we were SBC. I used to attend Church of Christ with my buddies from time to time and they preached it more consistently in their every day sermons.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:36 pm to 3nOut
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biblical worldview
Oxymoron
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. Romans 12:2
You have the word of life, or spiritual poison.
Do you drink from the bottles of cleaner to see what they're like?
Posted on 8/8/22 at 2:38 pm to This GUN for HIRE
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What other sin did God say he hates, and burn down a town over. Sexual immortality is a lifestyle sin that God called an abomination. Once you ask for forgiveness, you’e not supposed to wake up in the same sin day after day. As God said he would cast our sins from us, remove them, throw them into the sea. How can that be done if the sinner doesn’t do the same? A component of sin is guilt. If there is no guilt & remorse, is it really repentance?
Well stated.
I will, though, that what sets queers apart from other sinners is their refusal to acknowledge that what they are doing is, in fact, sinful.
There isn't a group of thieves trying to normalize burglary. Murderers aren't trying to take over churches in order to make them feel less guilty for what they do.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 3:00 pm to mtntiger
quote:Pedos, commies, and pro-aborts do this as well though. Odd how these are also the sins that define today's Pedocrat Party?
I will, though, that what sets queers apart from other sinners is their refusal to acknowledge that what they are doing is, in fact, sinful.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 3:05 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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I never understand why so many churches say Jesus will forgive your sins, except for sucking cock, he won't forgive no gay shite. Jesus don't play that. The preacher can frick Steve's wife and that will be forgiven. But we can't abide for Timmy and Tommy to be a couple happy queers.
No wonder you are not a christian. You are to stupid to understand the concept.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 3:13 pm to VolcanicTiger
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Pedos, commies, and pro-aborts
not to be a nitpicker, but as much as i hate communism, one of those is not like the other two.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 3:15 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
quote:Most preachers wouldn't keep their jobs - forgiven or not. The distinction, which you must've gone through herculean effort to ignore, is that past sins are in a different category than ongoing sins or sins whose sinfulness is denied, or worse - celebrated.
I never understand why so many churches say Jesus will forgive your sins, except for sucking cock, he won't forgive no gay shite. Jesus don't play that. The preacher can frick Steve's wife and that will be forgiven. But we can't abide for Timmy and Tommy to be a couple happy queers.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 3:16 pm to 3nOut
quote:As a concept, I agree with you, but as a movement, it is pure evil and has done more to harm humanity than any other man-made concept. If someone told me that the "Beast" was Communism, I wouldn't be surprised.
not to be a nitpicker, but as much as i hate communism, one of those is not like the other two.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 3:37 pm to jnethe1
quote:Some of you make Jesus sounds like the biggest egotistical maniac a-hole.
What makes a person a Christian is the acknowledgement that they are sinners, that what they do is bad, and that they need to repent from said sins. Ultimately you are to recognize you are incapable of earning your way into heaven, instead you need to acknowledge Jesus as your Savior. Without Him, you have no chance.
So if person 1 doesn't acknowledge Jesus as his savior he goes to hell even if, by any indication, while everyone does sin lived his life in a manner which everyone would respect, doing the right things, being selfless and helping others, etc. That dude gets to live the afterlife for eternity in hell.
But person 2 is a lifelong serial rapist and muderer but at 78 years old, he truly repents for all of his sins and accepts Jesus as his Savior. He gets to go to Heaven.
So what you do on this Earth is completely irrelevant, just bow down to Jesus and you're good to go. That is quite literally what is being said here.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 3:39 pm to Guntoter1
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No wonder you are not a christian. You are to stupid to understand the concept
Who said I'm not? You get to decide that because I dare to question the hypocrisy of the church? Or maybe because I'm misunderstood the teachings then I'm not worthy of salvation?
You don't know shite. Eat a dick.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 3:39 pm to shel311
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So what you do on this Earth is completely irrelevant, just bow down to Jesus and you're good to go.
Sure. Lots of serial rapists just decide that they’re bad people and decide to convert to a whole new way of thinking and the neural pathways that led them through life don’t affect them at all.
Posted on 8/8/22 at 3:40 pm to VolcanicTiger
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As a concept, I agree with you, but as a movement, it is pure evil and has done more to harm humanity than any other man-made concept. If someone told me that the "Beast" was Communism, I wouldn't be surprised.
fair enough. i always say i'll fully accept socialism or communism as a christian principle as long as i'm in charge of it.
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