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re: Florida Judge Blocks Governor Ron DeSantis’s 15-Week Abortion Ban
Posted on 6/30/22 at 3:57 pm to lsufball19
Posted on 6/30/22 at 3:57 pm to lsufball19
quote:Maybe in Tennessee.
A state court judge, and state court of appeals judge, and a state supreme court justice are three different things
In every state where I have ever entered a courthouse, all of them are "judges." Some are district judges and some are appellate judges at different levels with different titles.
But all are "judges."
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Posted on 6/30/22 at 3:58 pm to AggieHank86
quote:The 10th Amendment won. Abortion limitation was ironically not a SCOTUS finding.
abortion opponents won a HUGE battle last week.
Now we all understand the resultant indirect ramifications.
But the observation is no small issue when THIS SCOTUS ruling is being labeled "radical" as opposed to the Burger SCOTUS ruling which it unwound, and which had essentially conjured a basis for RvW out of thin air.
This post was edited on 6/30/22 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 6/30/22 at 3:59 pm to Indefatigable
quote:See my link above, which summarizes every state's system.
I really think you are incorrect there. I'm fairly certain that almost every state elects the entire state judiciary.
Only seven states do not hold judicial elections of some type, whether partisan, nonpartisan or retention.
This post was edited on 6/30/22 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 6/30/22 at 4:00 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
In every state where I have ever entered a courthouse, all of them are "judges." Some are district judges and some are appellate judges at different levels with different titles. But all are "judges."
Posted on 6/30/22 at 4:01 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
But all are "judges."
Yes, they're all judges, never said they weren't. Not sure where you're drawing that distinction from my post.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 4:02 pm to ShoeBang
quote:Agreed. Perhaps you should tell "lsufball19"
ShoeBang
Obvious
Posted on 6/30/22 at 4:04 pm to Jjdoc
quote:
the state constitution guarantees a right to the procedure
does it though?
Posted on 6/30/22 at 4:05 pm to Vacherie Saint
quote:Seeking an answer to that question is why they now have a lawsuit and a TRO.
the state constitution guarantees a right to the procedurequote:
does it though?
The TRO that the OP is whining about.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 4:05 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Only seven states do not hold judicial elections of some type, whether partisan, nonpartisan or retention.
29 states do not allow their voters to choose the supreme court justice they want, some do allow voters to choose to retain a judge but not to select a replacement. And your numbers are off on even allowing retention elections. 12 states allow no intervention or election period from voters in the state. Oddly enough, most of them are in the Northeast, as well as Hawaii, South Carolina, and Virginia.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 4:06 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Perhaps you should tell "lsufball19"
bud, you're going to need to show me where I said they weren't all judges. I'm very well aware of what a judge is. I practice in front of them every day
Unless you're trying to argue semantics here
This post was edited on 6/30/22 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 6/30/22 at 4:07 pm to lsufball19
quote:I linked the source of the info I provided. You can link your source. Maybe we can find the disconnect.
And your numbers are off on even allowing retention elections.
Probably a definitional thing on one site or the other.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 4:11 pm to Vacherie Saint
quote:
does it though?
All the same people who said the right to privacy didn’t apply to people getting an elective procedure during Covid will now say that the right to privacy does apply to killing your baby.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 4:14 pm to Jjdoc
quote:
The legal challenge in Florida hinges on a 1980 amendment to the state constitution guaranteeing a broad right to privacy, which has been interpreted by the state Supreme Court to include abortion. Florida voters reaffirmed the right to privacy in 2012 by rejecting a ballot initiative that would have weakened its protections, plaintiffs said.
Seems like a lower court judge relying on state president
Florida Supreme Court likely will have to follow the SCOTUS lead, but a constitutional right to privacy doesn’t exist in a federal level.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 4:14 pm to lsufball19
quote:IDF already raised the same issue. You said:
bud, you're going to need to show me where I said they weren't all judges. I'm very well aware of what a judge is. I practice in front of them every day
Unless you're trying to argue semantics here
quote:IOW, "all state court judges" are elected, but appellate justices are not. Implicit is that appellate justices are NOT "state court judges" because they are not elected. A Venn diagram with no overlap.
All state court judges are elected everywhere. State COA judges and state supreme court justices are appointed by governors
Presumably, you use the term "state court judge" to reference those called "district court judges" everywhere that I have ever heard of (except New York, where the normal district court is called a supreme court).
No big deal. We are all on the same page now.
This post was edited on 6/30/22 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 6/30/22 at 4:14 pm to AggieHank86
quote:
Seeking an answer to that question is why they now have a lawsuit and a TRO.
The TRO that the OP is whining about.
I figured you would be OK with Lawfare.
Here's a link to the State of Florida's constitution:
LINK
The word abortion doesnt appear in it. Not even once. The only language relative to abortion is about a parent's right to be notified before their minor child terminates a pregnancy.
This is advocacy - meant to "buy time" for women to murder their 15+ week old unborn babies before the courts can blast this stupid-arse case into the ether. You know it... I know it. And we shouldnt be OK with that.
Our courts have better things to do than indulge activists and politicians.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 4:16 pm to Vacherie Saint
quote:Yep. Things like resolving differing interpretations of constitutions and statutes.
Our courts have better things to do than indulge activists and politicians.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 4:17 pm to AggieHank86
this isnt that. stop it.
Apples and fricking bananas. The SCOTUS has already blasted this garbage. This is lawfare
quote:
The legal challenge in Florida hinges on a 1980 amendment to the state constitution guaranteeing a broad right to privacy, which has been interpreted by the state Supreme Court to include abortion.
Apples and fricking bananas. The SCOTUS has already blasted this garbage. This is lawfare
This post was edited on 6/30/22 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 6/30/22 at 4:19 pm to Jjdoc
Its a good age for lawyers.
Wonder how much these state disputes cost every year?
Probably about 350 impeachments.
Wonder how much these state disputes cost every year?
Probably about 350 impeachments.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 4:20 pm to the808bass
quote:Not all.
All the same people who said the right to privacy didn’t apply to people getting an elective procedure during Covid will now say that the right to privacy does apply to killing your baby.
"My body, my choice" applies equally in both situations, IMHO (absent a true public health emergency, which COVID definitely was not).
This post was edited on 6/30/22 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 6/30/22 at 4:26 pm to AggieHank86
The same dems who think the right to privacy means you can kill your baby at 37 weeks have their thugs in the IC rifling through your metadata and browsing histories as we speak.
Hi Fed!
Hi Fed!
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