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I don't understand some states abortion laws not having an exception for rape and incest
Posted on 6/27/22 at 2:46 pm
Posted on 6/27/22 at 2:46 pm
By and large I was pleased with the court's decision Friday. But in Alabama -- as of a law passed in 2019 which is now in effect, there is no provision/exception for rape and incest.
Why? Even if it is 1% why not take care of that from the onset? There has to be more to this. I hate how states like Illinois and NY passed bills allowing abortion up until a due date. But what am I missing on other states having zero exceptions for rape and incest?
Why? Even if it is 1% why not take care of that from the onset? There has to be more to this. I hate how states like Illinois and NY passed bills allowing abortion up until a due date. But what am I missing on other states having zero exceptions for rape and incest?
Posted on 6/27/22 at 2:47 pm to I-59 Tiger
This isn’t a serious question. It’s a purposeful misunderstanding of the arguments surrounding the issue.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 2:49 pm to I-59 Tiger
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By and large I was pleased with the court's decision Friday.
Agree
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But what am I missing on other states having zero exceptions for rape and incest?
Again agree. That's a bit extreme for me.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 2:49 pm to I-59 Tiger
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But what am I missing on other states having zero exceptions for rape and incest?
Nothing. The elected representatives of the citizens of those states chose not to have those exceptions. If the citizens of the state support those exceptions, they should lobby their legislators or vote for someone else who supports adding them.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 2:50 pm to I-59 Tiger
You really don’t understand why there’s no exception for rape or incest in an abortion law?
Posted on 6/27/22 at 2:50 pm to I-59 Tiger
quote:If one actually BELIEVES that "abortion is murder," the identity of the father is basically irrelevant.
what am I missing on other states having zero exceptions for rape and incest?
Just like the "moment of conception" advocates, who oppose even the "morning after" pill. They believe "life begins at conception," and they make no exceptions.
I honestly have more respect for these folks than for the wishy-washy "pro-Life" folks who make exception after exception ... and thereby move themselves further and further along the "slippery slope" toward being "pro-Choice," all while attacking pro-Choice folks as the spawn of Satan. The extent of their disingenuity is staggering.
They oppose wearing a miniskirt as immodest, but claim that THEIRS is not a miniskirt because it is one inch longer than yours.
This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 6/27/22 at 2:50 pm to I-59 Tiger
Listen, if the only way to have an abortion was to claim “rape”, they will claim it, regardless if it was or wasn’t. Their is no consequences for a women to file a false rape case on a man, if the only option for an abortion was rape, they will claim they were raped. Innocent men would constantly be fighting for their lives in a courtroom over false rape cases because a liberal wanted to terminate her pregnancy. The politicians knew this and that’s why they didn’t allow rape, they weren’t going to see men constantly get accused falsely.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 2:51 pm to I-59 Tiger
quote:They don't want abortion in their state, period.
But what am I missing on other states having zero exceptions for rape and incest?
Posted on 6/27/22 at 2:52 pm to I-59 Tiger
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LINK So this is a lie?
This is what it says
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she expects no exceptions for rape or incest will be considered until Alabama’s next legislative session begins in March 2023.
It just says no exceptions will be considered until March 2023.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 2:53 pm to I-59 Tiger
Sexual assault and rape should be mandatory reporting by victim and witnesses. If not, it didn’t happen.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 2:54 pm to momentoftruth87
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Sexual assault and rape should be mandatory reporting by victim and witnesses. If not, it didn’t happen.
There's no way you believe that.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 2:57 pm to I-59 Tiger
Because a life is a life, no matter who the father is. There are many videos out there that you can watch showing children of women who were raped talking about how they were glad their mothers let them live to be born into this world. Abortions that were spawned by pregnancies that were the direct result of rape or incest are extremely rare. Something like 98% of all abortions are done as a matter of convenience.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 2:57 pm to Indefatigable
quote:You have been here too long for that level of naivete.
Sexual assault and rape should be mandatory reporting by victim and witnesses. If not, it didn’t happen.quote:
There's no way you believe that.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 2:58 pm to I-59 Tiger
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I don't understand some states abortion laws not having an exception for rape and incest
because 99% of the time its just a lie like systemic racism, just a catch word to skirt around the rules if you use the magic word
Posted on 6/27/22 at 2:59 pm to RollTide1987
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Because a life is a life, no matter who the father is.
so, if your sister or daughter, girlfriend, etc, was raped and that 2% chance of pregnancy materialized, you'd just think, well,shucks. But a life is a life?
Posted on 6/27/22 at 3:00 pm to AggieHank86
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If one actually BELIEVES that "abortion is murder," the identity of the father is basically irrelevant.
In todays world, unfortunately, the 1-2%ers continue fricking it up for everyone else.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 3:01 pm to SlickRickerz
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Listen, if the only way to have an abortion was to claim “rape”, they will claim it, regardless if it was or wasn’t. Their is no consequences for a women to file a false rape case on a man, if the only option for an abortion was rape, they will claim they were raped. Innocent men would constantly be fighting for their lives in a courtroom over false rape cases because a liberal wanted to terminate her pregnancy. The politicians knew this and that’s why they didn’t allow rape, they weren’t going to see men constantly get accused falsely.
Exactly.
Rape is an absolutely disgusting crime. I can't imagine the physical, and moreso mental pain it causes a woman who has been raped. That said, if conception via rape is a "loophole" left in an abortion ban law it is guaranteed to be exploited because it will often be unfeasible to implement.
Rape CONVICTIONS generally take at least several months, often well over a year to reach. The child would almost assuredly be born before a conviction is reach. A "rape exception" is really an exception for ALLEGATIONS of rape. While we would all hope this wouldn't be the case, if a woman in a state that bans abortion becomes pregnant and absolutely does not want to have the baby it is not out of the question to think she could become desperate and claim the child was conceived via rape as a means to allowing her to get an abortion. Even if ultimately the charges of rape are dismissed, or the accused is held not guilty, the child would have already been aborted. It is not like the pregnancy can be put on hold to see the outcome of a rape charge.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 3:01 pm to Indefatigable
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There's no way you believe that.
When it comes to taking a human life for a cause, the least that should be expected is that a police report is filed and some proof from the accuser
Posted on 6/27/22 at 3:02 pm to momentoftruth87
Abortion cannot be performed without the political chaos. And that's the fault of the pro-abortionists. Forget individuals with false rape accusations. You don't think leftist abortion orgs will abuse that on a massive systemic scale? They will encourage it blatantly and proudly flood the system. That will be their foot in the door to stay present and keep fighting tooth and nail politically and litigiously until abortion on demand is de facto restored again. And that far outweighs the relatively few legitimate rape/incest. If it's sad for those few in those states, they can blame the leftist abortion demon apparatus. Hopefully the legislatures continue to understand what they are up against, and unlike OP don't naively think laws just operate perfectly in a vacuum
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