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re: My wife and I had an abortion. AMA
Posted on 6/25/22 at 6:58 pm to tigergirl10
Posted on 6/25/22 at 6:58 pm to tigergirl10
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That baby is NOT a woman’s body. A baby grows within a woman’s body but is it’s own person. Has it’s own organs and soul. Are you your mom’s body?
I don't know why this is hard to understand. Even as a young person trying to figure out where I landed on this, the "my body" argument always felt like...an outright lie.
So when you land on this "other personhood" thing it quickly becomes about this person's right to LIFE.
It has nothing to do with religion. But inalienable rights.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 6:59 pm to sabes que
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I don’t think aborting a fetus of 100 cells is any more murdering a human than using a condemn. A house fly has about 100,000 cells.
You know life doesn’t happen until the sperm meets the egg and its fertilized, right? Sperm and egg by itself is not a human.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:01 pm to sabes que
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Prove a soul scientifically. Please leave nuanced conversations to reasonable adults, not ideologue morons. A condom prevents millions of babies from being born every year. Is that murder? No? But aborting a fetus with less cells than a house fly is? Especially in circumstances like the OP.
A condom prevents conception. That's not the same thing.
I do, however, struggle with where that line is drawn, if it's drawn at all. It's damn well drawn for me before the point you have to dismember a live baby in the womb. The people who support this as a "right" and "on demand without apology" are pure evil.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:01 pm to TigerGM
A clump of less cells than a house fly is though? Why?
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:02 pm to sabes que
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But you have issue with that, so proves it has nothing to do with state’s rights, you just want your agenda pushed.
Overturning RvsW allows states that want to keep abortion legal to do so and states that don't want to don't have to.
What you left wingers want is to force states to allow abortion whether they want to or not.
It's you pushing an agenda
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:03 pm to sabes que
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A condom prevents millions of babies from being born every year. Is that murder? No? But aborting a fetus with less cells than a house fly is?
So a condom stopping sperm is the same as killing a fetus with a heartbeat. Got it. Excellent insight into a progressive mind.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:04 pm to sabes que
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I don’t think aborting a fetus of 100 cells is any more murdering a human than using a condemn. A house fly has about 100,000 cells.
It’s called an embryo prior to 8 weeks, it has more than 100 cells very early on during that process. By six weeks many of the organs have begun to form, as have the eyes and limbs, it usually possible to detect the heartbeat.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:05 pm to BigTimer085
The OPs story really isn’t any different than an elderly person requiring 24/7 medical care. Should you be able to kill them without them knowing because it costs a lot to keep them alive and it’s painful for the rest of the family?
I don’t know what the answer is but it doesn’t seem like that would be appropriate
I don’t know what the answer is but it doesn’t seem like that would be appropriate
This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 7:06 pm
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:07 pm to sabes que
What species is that clump of cells?
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:07 pm to WaWaWeeWa
What about Euthanasia? You think a person diagnosed with a horrible and painful illness should not have the right of opting out of enduring that?
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:08 pm to WaWaWeeWa
“Pro life” is one thing, what about “pro quality of life”?
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:09 pm to TigerGM
What species would be born if condoms were illegal?
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:11 pm to sabes que
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Prove a soul scientifically. Please leave nuanced conversations to reasonable adults, not ideologue morons. A condom prevents millions of babies from being born every year. Is that murder? No? But aborting a fetus with less cells than a house fly is? Especially in circumstances like the OP.
You are an atheist. Atheism boils down to nihilism. From your perspective why does anything matter?
Why can’t we just kill anyone?
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:11 pm to sabes que
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“Pro life” is one thing, what about “pro quality of life”?
Life is a necessary component of both.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:12 pm to sabes que
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What about Euthanasia? You think a person diagnosed with a horrible and painful illness should not have the right of opting out of enduring that?
I’d be much more inclined to not get involved if someone wants to end their life, but babies aren’t aborting themselves so I fail to see how this is relevant
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:14 pm to sabes que
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What about Euthanasia? You think a person diagnosed with a horrible and painful illness should not have the right of opting out of enduring that?
Absolutely. My body, my choice. That's far different than deciding to end another person's life.
What about a child born with horrible brain defects that will never allow him to function on his own, not be able to communicate, or leave a wheel chair? Should we snuff them out? Or just put them back in the birth canal and do it there since that seems to be OK?
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:15 pm to Quatre Pot
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Not my job to judge you. I can disagree very strongly with your decision but not judge you. Instead, I’ll include your family in my prayers and pray for healing and grace head your way
Same here. No way I could've knowingly aborted a child conceived by my wife and I. It's not my job to play God. If my unborn child had a 1% chance I'm giving them that. Again, not judging just stating my opinion.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:19 pm to WaWaWeeWa
quote:Do you think society gets its morality from the Bible or Christians base their morality on society? Should women be silent in church services, be forced to have long hair, and be submissive to their husbands? What determines which verses modern day people cherry pick to emphasize? Is it secular logic?
Atheism boils down to nihilism.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:21 pm to WaWaWeeWa
Also, there is nothing more nihilistic than,” oh well it’s the omnipotent God’s plan.” In that case why care about anything?
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:24 pm to crazyLSUstudent
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How do you know?
What business is it of yours?
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