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re: Got the jab? Hmmm. You may have trouble with your fertility if you got the Pfizer needle

Posted on 6/22/22 at 8:53 am to
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36571 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 8:53 am to
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I feel like there is going to be a chicken/egg argument going on the next decade about whether adverse effects are from the virus or vax. And it's going to be difficult to know what to believe.


It really isn't. Tissue samples will have characteristic evidence of cellular injury patterns and we should be able to determine whether there is a pattern. Vaccine side effects are rarely long-term, and generally appear immediately after vaccination. That no one has posted any histopathology or even referred to any in all these anti-vax arguments is telling.
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3737 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 9:01 am to
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crazy4lsu
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Vaccine side effects are rarely long-term, and generally appear immediately after vaccination.

So the ones who have died from from myocarditis brought on by vaccine should feel better?

I assume the results posted here were from men who were healthy and took vaccine.
So, when do we see results from healthy men who took vaccine then got covid? or got covid then took vaccine?
Posted by Hognutz
Member since Sep 2018
1478 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 9:03 am to
Except death, that side effect tends to last.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
40224 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 9:07 am to
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Could be just more men with fertility problems took the jab…

Which is likely when you think about it.

From the study:
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Pfizer’s own trial data showed that male participants were instructed to refrain from having sexual intercourse, or to use condoms, while they were actively in the trial.

Now, what kind of man would consent to go without sex for 120 days!
This post was edited on 6/22/22 at 9:11 am
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
10365 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 9:12 am to
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Now, what kind of man would consent to go without sex for 120 days!


Liars?
Posted by Demshoes
Up in here
Member since Aug 2015
10252 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 9:23 am to
J&J increased my length and girth.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36571 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 9:24 am to
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So the ones who have died from from myocarditis brought on by vaccine should feel better?


How many died? I don't recall many deaths from myocarditis in the data from the CDC.

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So, when do we see results from healthy men who took vaccine then got covid? or got covid then took vaccine?





Febrile illness will result in transient disruption of spermatogenesis, so parsing that data might be difficult. I did like the use of sperm bank samples but the cohort ran young, and might show recovery whereas older populations, who may or may not be as healthy, would not. The difficulty here is finding representative population samples from before vaccination using only sperm bank donors.
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 9:25 am to
Get 4 of them. That should help.
Posted by Lsudx256
DFW
Member since Mar 2016
2911 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 9:26 am to
To me this is a solution to liberalism, just like abortion in a sense.
Soy boy sheep get jab so they can virtue signal and now they can’t breed. Potentially less Democrats in the next generation.
Abortions are killing 100,000s of black babies every year. Hence, less Democrats in the next generation.
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3737 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 9:38 am to
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crazy4lsu

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How many died? I don't recall many deaths from myocarditis in the data from the CDC.


OK, for you Fauci types, how many is too many?

What you should do is rent a civic center and have a presentation. You could be the featured speaker and educate us. When you are done, we, in turn, could educate you.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425838 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 9:40 am to
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SFP you def bent the knee

If understanding how basic biology occurs means I bent the knee, then I bent the knee.

If being purposefully obtuse and ignorant to basic biology makes you cool, then consider yourself Miles Davis
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36571 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 9:47 am to
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OK, for you Fauci types, how many is too many?


I'm asking you how many died, because myocarditis is generally a mild, self-limited illness. I thought you had that information handy.

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What you should do is rent a civic center and have a presentation. You could be the featured speaker and educate us. When you are done, we, in turn, could educate you.


Why would I need a civic center? Educate me right now.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164635 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 10:37 am to
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for several months
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You need to update your subject.

It’s only been several months since people got the vaccine.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22403 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 10:44 am to
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Could be just more men with fertility problems took the jab…


Last I checked, the vaccine was recommended and in some cases required as a condition of employment for everyone 5 years and up
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54754 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 11:01 am to
Your wackadoodle anti-vaxx sight cherry picks the study for the info supporting its position with no skepticism and then downplays and is extremely skeptical of the portion of the study that notes:

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T3 evaluation demonstrated overall recovery. Semen volume and sperm motility were not impaired.


Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
10365 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 11:02 am to
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It’s only been several months since people got the vaccine.


Not in this study.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
83202 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 11:03 am to
My buddy in Houston who lives in the right neighborhood had to allow his wife to vax their young kids so that they wouldn't be shunned. I get it, mate. Not all are cut out to live like lions.
This post was edited on 6/22/22 at 11:08 am
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54754 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 11:07 am to
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My buddy in Houston who lives in the right neighborhood had to allow his wife to vax their young kids so that they wouldn't be shunned. I get it, mate. Not all are cut out to live like lions.


Stupid, nonsense.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
83202 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 11:09 am to
Continued playdates at the neighbours McMansions >>>> grandchildren.
This post was edited on 6/22/22 at 11:10 am
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3737 posts
Posted on 6/22/22 at 11:11 am to
You don't care for live, in person, hands on education?
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