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re: Breaking: leaked surveillance cameras show uvalde cops had ballistic shields and rifles

Posted on 6/20/22 at 11:20 pm to
Posted by 9rocket
Member since Sep 2020
1229 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 11:20 pm to
And you just know when they finished that training they walked around with their chests puffed out saying “ yeah, I’m a badass, just been to that training deal all week. “
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
5778 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 1:34 am to
Is there an updated diagram of this building(s) including how what looks like a connector between 2 buildings fits in floor plan (just looking at roof - not as high or as wide to back as building where the killer entered classrooms). I have only seen the one they put out day of shooting to press there. It’s seems a little off from this pic. Also read some other cops including the district police chief entered from the opposite side.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17317 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 6:12 am to
I just don't know what to say or think about this whole thing any more. Absolutely none of what these cops did makes any sense. No officers I know are trained to react that way. I can say with 100% certainty if equipped like they are, you go in. There were two doors on either end because the classrooms joined. You flank the guy. Its not rocket science. This shite just doesn't add up
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109875 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 6:26 am to
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Officer Ruben Ruiz with Uvalde CISD Police, his wife was one of the teachers killed, Eva Mireles. He knew she was in there, she even called him from the classroom as she was dying. He was outside the school.


Wow, that’s taking shitiness to a whole new level. Didn’t live up to his vow as a husband or an officer. What a piece of fricking shite.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25445 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 6:41 am to
Tough guys at the traffic stops.

Absolute cowards when we need them.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15576 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 6:49 am to
Apparently the Chief was giving orders for minor things inside but denied that he was in charge of the actual response or decision to move on the shooter. The cops are claiming they didn’t have clear orders and didn’t know who was in charge. Pathetic
This post was edited on 6/21/22 at 6:50 am
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119862 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 6:53 am to
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Apparently the Chief was giving orders for minor things inside but denied that he was in charge of the actual response or decision to move on the shooter. The cops are claiming they didn’t have clear orders and didn’t know who was in charge. Pathetic



I'm not a cop, but if you have an active shooter inside a school, do you need a lot of orders to know to act? I'm sure there is some coordination to who is where so you don't shoot each other, but beyond that, it appears they just stood in hallways waiting for someone to radio in a comment?
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 6:54 am to
frick these pigs and all pigs. All cut from the same cloth.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
15576 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 6:55 am to
I’m not sure what their policies are but that’s their reasoning
Texas Tribune - good article from last night
quote:

At least some officers on the scene seemed to believe that Arredondo was in charge inside the school, and at times Arredondo seemed to be issuing orders such as directing officers to evacuate students from other classrooms. That contradicts Arredondo’s assertion that he did not believe he was running the law enforcement response. Arredondo’s lawyer, George E. Hyde, said the chief will not elaborate on his interview with the Tribune, given the ongoing investigation.
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
18721 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 7:04 am to
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Just wait until the next leak happens. Seems to get worse every time something comes out.


I don't understand how this chief still has his job
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
2311 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 7:08 am to
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I don't understand how this chief still has his job


The parents and other people of Uvalde don’t either.

YouTube LINK of the first Uvalde School Board meeting since the shooting.
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 7:47 am to
prison is too good for a person that would let kids die bc they are afraid to do their job.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
27165 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 7:50 am to
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I’m not sure what their policies are but that’s their reasoning

Cowards, every single one of them. No orders are needed in that situation.

Go in. Period. There really is no other possible response to a live shooter in a school. Engage the shooter. That’s it.

Any excuses just make the whole lot of them seem worse.
Posted by Lightning
Texas
Member since May 2014
2311 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 8:00 am to
When the entire surveillance video comes out, and it looks like it will because media has apparently already seen it, I cannot imagine the rage those parents will feel as they watch Chief Doolittle fumble with keys and chat on his cellphone for over an hour.

The early story was that the Chief was waiting on keys to enter the classrooms. Now it’s being reported that they never even tried the doorknobs of the classrooms, they may not have been locked anyway. But also that the keys were obtained very early in the process and that Arredondo then spent time trying the keys on *other* classroom doors, supposedly trying to locate a master key that would open all the doors. To me that sounds like he was looking for busy work that would keep him occupied OUT of the line of fire.
Posted by Baw Vivant
Member since Mar 2022
223 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 8:07 am to
As far as I’m concerned every single one of them forfeited their right to carry a firearm ever again. If they weren’t going to use their guns in that situation then clearly there’s no reason for them to carry in any situation.

Posted by John88
Member since Sep 2015
6241 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 11:20 am to
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