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Return to OZ (1985)

Posted on 6/9/22 at 9:18 am
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10646 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 9:18 am
Somehow I ended up re-watching this for this first time since the 80's.

HOLY CRAP! It was way worse than i remembered..
How the hell did they go so far backwards in realism/effects/everything?

Note: I do realize this is not intended to be a "sequel", but it is meant to be the exact same characters and take place 6 months after the 1939 version left off.


Dorothy:
we go from a 16/17 year old Judy Garland


to a 10 year old Fairuza Balk


from a tin man that actually looks like a man:


to a block of cheap metal with limbs:



from the lead singer for Metallica:


to whatever the hell this is supposed to be:



from the downright awesome original Scarecrow:



to this Nightmare inducing Abomination:

Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10646 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 9:20 am to
from a straight up evil and terrifying Witch:



to Santa Clause dressed up as a rock trying to smoothly bargain with us.
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
11932 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 9:24 am to
Probably like the Universal Monsters, they weren't allowed to copy the makeup, so went with something closer to the original illustrations. I haven't seen it in years and years, though.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
12833 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 9:25 am to
quote:

from the lead singer for Metallica:


This made me laugh.
Posted by LB84
Member since May 2016
4370 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 9:46 am to
I have a weird soft spot in my heart for Return to Oz. I enjoyed getting the books from the library as a kid and thought all the villains in the movie were well done. My main gripe as a kid to even now is Dorothy being so young.

The wheelers are stuff of pure terror for a child. The many headed witch is also quite disturbing for the time. With a little more production quality I think the movie would have been excellent.

This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 9:51 am
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10646 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 9:51 am to
quote:

The wheelers are stuff of pure terror for a child.


yes!

especially first couple frames where you see the “mask” on top of their head instead of their faces.
Posted by jbraua
Oklahoma City, OK
Member since Oct 2007
7728 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 9:56 am to
quote:

The wheelers are stuff of pure terror for a child. The many headed witch is also quite disturbing for the time.


yes, all of this was very scary for me as a child.
Posted by LB84
Member since May 2016
4370 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:07 am to
quote:

yes, all of this was very scary for me as a child.


I remember genuinely feeling relieved when Dorothy uses the key to unlock the hidden room that held the bronze soldier to help her with the wheelers. I forget his name.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18917 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:27 am to
quote:

I remember genuinely feeling relieved when Dorothy uses the key to unlock the hidden room that held the bronze soldier to help her with the wheelers. I forget his name.


Tick Tock. The wheelers were pure nightmare fuel as was the princess with all of the heads.

I always wanted to eat one of the lunches that grew on the lunch pail tree
This post was edited on 6/9/22 at 10:29 am
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
22811 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:28 am to
Oh, Lord. I forgot all about this movie. Now I remember my mother (no pics) taking my sister (no pics) and I to see this at the theater. Probably the one at Cortana.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10646 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:29 am to
quote:

pure nightmare fuel as was the princess with all of the heads



when the heads are all alive in their cases was absolute horror
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10646 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:30 am to
quote:

I always wanted to eat one of the lunches that grew on the lunch pail tree


“A ham sandwich”
Posted by Tom Servo
Member since Aug 2009
573 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:30 am to
In all of those comparisons, Return to Oz is more accurate to the book.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10646 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 10:40 am to
quote:

In all of those comparisons, Return to Oz is more accurate to the book.


i get that.
i was more comparing just movie to movie visuals (leaving out books, any animated shows, etc).

especially considering the 2nd movie made it such a point to keep bringing up the original to make sure we knew damn good and well these were the exact same characters rather than allowing us to assume they were different interpretations of them.
Posted by Alyosha
Member since Nov 2020
9996 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:11 pm to
A true horror flick as a kid.
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
31842 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

I have a weird soft spot in my heart for Return to Oz


It is my wife’s favorite movie of all time and I don’t get it. The first day we got Disney+ she demanded it was the first thing we watched.

I was like WTF did your parents let you watch?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62575 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 1:33 pm to
quote:

I have a weird soft spot in my heart for Return to Oz.


Me too. I remember my mom taking me to the theater to see it after I got back from Cub Scout camp. I get the criticisms of it, but I enjoy it.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33371 posts
Posted on 6/9/22 at 5:48 pm to
quote:

The wheelers are stuff of pure terror for a child.




That is scary.
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