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re: DeSantis throws down the gauntlet

Posted on 5/24/22 at 7:38 am to
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25605 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 7:38 am to
If you're talking Jan.6, then maybe he should have clued into the trap being set when Nancy refused to increase Capitol defense, as he requested.

Trump sees what he wants to see, and is blinded by his hubris.

A calculating man who was the target of a fake 2 year long investigation over a made up Dossier than impeached 2x's over bogus claims should have seen this coming.

Trump didn't.
Posted by GhostOfFreedom
Member since Jan 2021
11847 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 7:46 am to
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Is he supporting secession?


well, Biden's little fake treaty isn't binding. It Constitutionally has to be approved by the Senate.

...

I would say that would never happen, but I didn't expect a bunch of pussy republichickens to go along with 40 billion to corrupt Ukraine.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 7:46 am to
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A calculating man who was the target of a fake 2 year long investigation over a made up Dossier than impeached 2x's over bogus claims should have seen this coming

Shoulda worn a longer skirt.

The treatment of Trump is exactly what you will see when overturning the established order. But you keep re-writing history.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25605 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 7:51 am to
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But you keep re-writing history.


What did I post which was inaccurate?


* I didn't think so.
This post was edited on 5/26/22 at 4:17 am
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
5670 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 7:53 am to
quote:

Yeah you sit there and wait for SCOTUS to do away with it


I’m thinking a federal judge in Florida finds it unconstitutional and that is upheld on appeal so it will be worthless for a good while until scotus and I doubt they overturn centuries of law
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
5027 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 7:53 am to
A treaty has to have 2/3's Senate. No way that happens. But maybe they pull off something like Obama and now Biden did with Iran. They entered the US into an agreement with another nation with no congressional approval. Just an agreement between State Dept (executive) and a foreign country.
Because Congress has allowed that it laid the ground work for entering into agreements/treaties without congressional approval.
If the State Dept can enter into a nuclear agreement with Iran without any Congressional approval that represent the people, then why can't the CDC, NIH, HHS enter us into an agreement with the World Health Organization.
Obama did this to set the precedent that the Executive Branch can have the US enter into foreign agreements without approval. It was a massive power grab and then a WHO agreement is flaunting that power grab and setting it in stone. Congress better not let this happen.
Posted by Macfly
BR & DS
Member since Jan 2016
8146 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 7:54 am to
GOP swampers and non-swampers should be ashamed of themselves for collectively being so ineffective and not caring about their electorate.
Posted by jbird7
Central FL
Member since Jul 2020
5290 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 7:54 am to
Biden admin just digging that hole deeper and deeper. Why the hell would anyone want the WHO, whose credibility as been blown to pieces during Covid, to be in charge of anything in this country? I was kinda skeptical of believing world leaders trying to reestablish a new world order but when I see shite like this it makes me wonder.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32424 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 7:57 am to
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There Is ‘No Way’ Florida Will Support W.H.O. Global Pandemic Treaty
Since it's unconstitutional, why not line up those Attorneys General from the Red States to have the lawsuit ready to file if this illegitimate administration oversteps their authority?
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8424 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:02 am to
Here W.H.O. This is for you and your fraud pal Joe Biden.


Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27265 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:02 am to
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well, Biden's little fake treaty isn't binding


I agree, until it is binding... look at how much power that congress has ceded the executive... that kind of stuff should not be happening but it is and does every day...

quote:

It Constitutionally has to be approved by the Senate.



It should have to be approved by the Senate... damage can be done by simply entering into an agreement which sets things in motion that takes years at best to be undone...

quote:

go along with 40 billion to corrupt Ukraine.


and then some...
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
3871 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:04 am to
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Which Governors follow suit?



This is why the Georgia baws have got to bury the hatchet over Kemp. Anything Desantis does, Abrams will throw it in hard reverse for Georgia. No questions asked. We will do irreversible harm to Georgia if that crazy person wins.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:04 am to
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Obama did this to set the precedent that the Executive Branch can have the US enter into foreign agreements without approval.

And it didn't work because Trump pulled us right back out.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
9214 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:07 am to
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Is he supporting secession?


In the very least he understands the word "sovereign"?
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19594 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:07 am to

If the fed is handing over sovereignty to the states without consent, it should be every governor’s duty to say no.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 8:08 am
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51884 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:08 am to
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Is he supporting secession?


No, he's supporting the rule of law.

The executive branch negotiates treaties but the Senate (by 2/3 vote) approves them or not. The President can't just sign us into some bullshite treaty where some foreign entity has superior rights on US soil than neither the state nor federal governments, at least without 2/3 of the Senate signing off on it first.
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3737 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:13 am to
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*And for you downvotes, Trump only has 1 term left. DeSantis would have 2.



He has 6 years left.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25605 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:14 am to

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He has 6 years left.


Presidents serve 4 year terms.

Figure it out.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
27265 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:16 am to
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The President can't just sign us into some bullshite treaty where some foreign entity has superior rights on US soil than neither the state nor federal governments, at least without 2/3 of the Senate signing off on it first.




I agree with you but who or what is going to stop the Turnip from signing an agreement that sets things in motion that are not easily undone...

Did Congress ratify the Paris Climate Accord? Sure Trump pulled us out but Turnip puts us right back in...

Congress should be the one reeling this administration in on this but they are not...
Posted by dr
texas
Member since Mar 2022
1132 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 8:18 am to
robo army

maybe they do,
wonder what caused the microchip shortage?
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