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re: Abortion is a women's issue, and ONLY a women's issue...

Posted on 5/7/22 at 5:51 pm to
Posted by Sub Par SUPERSTAR
Florida
Member since Sep 2021
822 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 5:51 pm to
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Here's another "that shite will never happen" moment a leftist is trying to make mainstream.


So you're not gonna answer. This generation of young people is having less sex than ever, the birth rate world wide has plummeted, and the people who identify as a member of the alphabet soup community is greater than ever. And your only response is "that'll never happen". Well it's happening now.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15666 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 6:00 pm to
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Males have no physical stakes in pregnancy and childbirth, a women's health issue, therefore they're opinion on the matter is completely irrelevant.

Also, men who hold extreme "pro life" stances as a key issue, are massive weirdos.


Without a man, a woman can't procreate. Therefore, you are absolutely full of shite. If a woman aborted (MURDERED) my child i would want to murder her. SO frick YOU
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12995 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 6:03 pm to
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Honest question, if every woman on planet earth decided to heed you and your ilks advice tomorrow, and stopped having sex with men, just decided to handle that "big O" themselves, and eliminate the tremendous physical risk of pregnancy entirely, how would you feel about that?


Of all the pro abortion arguments I’ve heard this has to be the dumbest.

If these women that care about abortion so much had the discipline to abstain from sex then they wouldn’t need an abortion now would they?
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
12995 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 6:04 pm to
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This generation of young people is having less sex than ever, the birth rate world wide has plummeted, and the people who identify as a member of the alphabet soup community is greater than ever.


So your solution to that is to make the birth rate even lower?
Posted by Sub Par SUPERSTAR
Florida
Member since Sep 2021
822 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 6:04 pm to
You're a weirdo. And you appear to be psychopath. I truly hope no woman ever procreates with you.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31534 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 6:18 pm to
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Males have no physical stakes in pregnancy and childbirth, a women's health issue.


For starters, literally every statement above is an abject falsehood, scientifically, objectively.

To the extent it's an actual women's health issue, it's almost entirely irrelevant to the legal and ethical discussion and debate. And the first part is not only a red herring and a post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy, it is simply scientifically false.

You do no favors for the anti-life position. As usual,I could make its argument way better than its idiotic proponents.
This post was edited on 5/7/22 at 6:19 pm
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
*wears khakis
Member since Jun 2012
11926 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 6:19 pm to
Dance around it all you want, at the end of the day, you’re justifying killing a baby.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
5347 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 6:19 pm to
I get your rage. Your wife is a fatty out protesting and is on a sex strike over this. Must be missing out on all your sex with joy bayhar.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31534 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 6:20 pm to
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So your solution to that is to make the birth rate even lower?


We're dealing with a likely alter with a mixed up noggin and probably downstairs.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140699 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 6:20 pm to
At what point isn’t it murder, progstain?
Posted by Sub Par SUPERSTAR
Florida
Member since Sep 2021
822 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 6:26 pm to
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literally every statement above is an abject falsehood


Name the physical risks (physical only) a man faces during pregnancy or childbirth?
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 6:29 pm to
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You're a weirdo. And you appear to be psychopath.
kettle say what? you're pro killing fetuses and you think someone else is the weirdo? either way, better to be a psychopath than a demon like you.
Posted by Roaad
White Privilege Broker
Member since Aug 2006
76560 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 6:29 pm to
What about boy babies?
Posted by Sub Par SUPERSTAR
Florida
Member since Sep 2021
822 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 6:37 pm to
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kettle say what? you're pro killing fetuses and you think someone else is the weirdo? either way, better to be a psychopath than a demon like you.


Nope, it's demonic to say you wish to murder someone. I don't believe abortion is murder, therefore the only "demon" is the one saying they'd like to murder people. You will never, ever hold the moral high ground on me. And until my friends and loved ones tell me I'm a bad person, I'll keep on keepin' on.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31534 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 6:48 pm to
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Name the physical risks (physical only) a man faces during pregnancy or childbirth?


First, you said "stakes," not risks. Those are different terms and concepts.

Second, if you're talking risks, see my other response: life of the mother is not a real issue.

Again. Red. Herring.

Do you want me to make your argument for you, given you're incapable of doing so?

Eta: and if your fumbling around is an attempt to say that, because there is always risk to the mother's health/life in pregnancy, all women should be able to end their pregnancies, then that's an equally unavailing, ridiculous argument.

It avoids/ignores/begs the question of when human life begins--i.e., THE issue, regardless of where you ultimately fall.

Just because someone or even something poses a risk to a person doesn't mean that person necessary has a right to eliminate that someone or something.
This post was edited on 5/7/22 at 7:01 pm
Posted by Sub Par SUPERSTAR
Florida
Member since Sep 2021
822 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 6:57 pm to
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First, you said "stakes," not risks.


There are various definitions of the word "stake", some of which are accurate in the context of my post. Regardless, this is just flim flam, you understood what I meant.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31534 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 6:57 pm to
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You will never, ever hold the moral high ground on me. And until my friends and loved ones tell me I'm a bad person, I'll keep on keepin' on.


All people are bad.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31534 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 6:58 pm to
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There are various definitions of the word "stake", some of which are accurate in the context of my post. Regardless, this is just flim flam, you understood what I meant.


Well. No. And I addressed all of your attempted points.
Posted by KingGator81
Member since Oct 2013
648 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 7:00 pm to
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Sub Par SUPERSTAR

You certainly are sub par.
Posted by Sub Par SUPERSTAR
Florida
Member since Sep 2021
822 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 7:03 pm to
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Just because someone or even something poses a risk to a person doesn't mean that person necessary has a right to eliminate that someone or something.


It's body autonomy, brother. I can admit there's grey area around "where life begins", but it certainly isn't at "conception".
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