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Is the Fed killing the housing market?

Posted on 5/5/22 at 12:35 pm
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
13246 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 12:35 pm
Mortgage rates continue to climb but housing prices are not dropping, plus there is a shortage of houses.

It's going to be harder for people to afford a mortgage loan.
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
17727 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 12:58 pm to
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It's going to be harder for people to afford a mortgage loan.


Which will correct prices.

They will probably level off in most of the hot markets because its still a supply and demand thing.

People who were paying 200/sq foot + in shite hole places to live are probably f-ed though.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29014 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 1:43 pm to
private investment firms removing inventory for the foreseaable future and all cash offers from out of staters are killing the housing market.

my town expects 7000 new homes in the next 6 years. most are going to be duplexes or DR Horton cookie cutters, not real neighborhoods.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11533 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 4:05 pm to
Institutional investors aren't getting mortgages...

They are manipulating the market, when the market is being manipulated it can't be controlled.

Posted by LeGrosChat
Bangladesh
Member since Feb 2016
404 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 10:05 pm to
If you trust the government, just talk to the American Indians. They got hosed by the government.
So, yes, the Fed artificially lowered rates in response to the Great Recession in 2008-2009, and now are way too late in raising rates.
Posted by ColdDuck
BR via da Parish
Member since Sep 2006
2772 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 7:58 am to
I hope so for the Florida condo market, but everyone is paying cash and condos are up 25-50% after swapping out a couch and fresh paint.
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
3814 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:35 am to
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It's going to be harder for people to afford a mortgage loan.


Amazing time to own rental property. There will be some people with good incomes who will opt to rent a nicer place vs buying a dump
Posted by sawtooth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2017
3588 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 6:24 pm to
It’s just starting. Why are people so impatient?

Wait for it…..
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41238 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 7:10 pm to
they are definitely trying

Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
5093 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 9:21 am to
Did the Fed print money between 2008 and now, increasing debt from 10.7T to 30T? If yes, then yes.

But the damage isn’t linear between 2008 and now, it’s a bubble, they knew it would blow, they just didn’t care.

Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10506 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 6:11 pm to
They’re trying to avoid a crash by raising rates incrementally which is the right thing to do

Cool it off to save it
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15724 posts
Posted on 5/7/22 at 9:03 pm to
Just rent one from Blackrock. It’ll only be twice as expensive as the mortgage would have been.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25805 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 8:57 am to
House prices remain hot until unemployment creeps (people have the money and confidence to spend more).

If/when unemployment creeps, you will see a sharp correction in prices (how much depends upon the level of unemployment. Consumer confidence is the biggest driver of the direction of housing prices).
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49034 posts
Posted on 5/8/22 at 4:01 pm to
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Is the Fed killing the housing market?


No but they artificially inflated it for a decade.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51822 posts
Posted on 5/9/22 at 12:20 pm to
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Is the Fed killing the housing market?


Sort of. The Fed created the housing frenzy we've seen over the last few years by keeping rates low. Even when the market was doing well, the Fed would shy away from raising rates because just mentioning it would send the market into spasms (see: addiction).

So they've kicked the can down the road but now we've reached a point where continuing to kick it would end up being worse than ripping off the band-aid. Raising rates will pull money out of the market, thus curtailing inflation, but it will also necessitate a slowdown in the market (read: unemployment increases) in the meantime.

The further up they go eventually gives them more room to lower rates to spur growth after the economy stabilizes from the increases (the sweet spot for good growth balanced by rates seems to be around 5%, which we haven't seen in over a decade).

Not doing so would be to keep a glut of money in the economy, increasing inflation with no mechanism for bringing it back down.

So, yes they are killing it but they created it and it needs to be killed a bit for longer-term considerations.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19718 posts
Posted on 5/10/22 at 12:12 pm to
It will soon be a good time for those who can pay cash.
Posted by JLivermore
Wendover
Member since Dec 2015
1425 posts
Posted on 5/11/22 at 4:14 pm to
your vacation homes are toast

primary homes should be better off
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