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re: Tornado! Insane Deviant Tornado in Kansas

Posted on 4/30/22 at 6:19 pm to
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 4/30/22 at 6:19 pm to
On a lighter note, Cain Dahlia could absolutely get it.
Posted by BregmansWheelbarrow
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Posted on 4/30/22 at 6:36 pm to
Small world. You are definitely my nieces cross country coach lol
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 4/30/22 at 6:38 pm to
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You are definitely my nieces cross country coach lol

Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
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Posted on 4/30/22 at 8:14 pm to
Oh damn. Is it the one by the Y?
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
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Posted on 4/30/22 at 8:15 pm to
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Small world. You are definitely my nieces cross country coach lol
oh shoot. What year is she?

I’m really curious to know who she is
This post was edited on 4/30/22 at 8:18 pm
Posted by LSUShock
Kansas
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 4/30/22 at 8:31 pm to
Pretty wild day yesterday. Storm kind of rolled in out of nowhere and tornado was on the ground fast.

Live on the east side of town about 4 miles from where it touched down. Sister was a mile away. Have hundreds of friends/acquaintances who were impacted or narrowly missed. The scene this morning is pretty bad that way.

In a really sad way, we've been due for this. For being "tornado alley", we haven't had a tornado in the metro area in a long time.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/30/22 at 8:44 pm to
What about that tornado warned storm bearing down on Marianna Arkansas?

Looks nasty
Posted by Nome tiger
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 4/30/22 at 8:59 pm to
I had no idea so many people on here live near Wichita. My son plays at Butler and he and a couple of teammates rent a place in El Dorado. He and several friends were on his porch watching the sky when they saw it. Nevertheless there were 20 football players squeezed into his matchbox sized basement.
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
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Posted on 4/30/22 at 9:01 pm to
Can you opt out by texting :stop: ?
Posted by LSUShock
Kansas
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 4/30/22 at 9:29 pm to
There’s a few of us. I’ve run into Pedro in town haha.

Very nice. Butler is a great program with great facilities, though not as prevalent as it was 8-10 years ago. The whole Jayhawks league is that way. Mett was my class and I had a bunch of buddies who played FB or Baseball. Those teams were fun to go watch.
Posted by latxwoman
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 4/30/22 at 9:57 pm to
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It's bizarre to see the tornado against a clear blue sky like that.


I don't think I've ever seen one like that.
Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 4/30/22 at 10:11 pm to
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I had no idea so many people on here live near Wichita. My son plays at Butler and he and a couple of teammates rent a place in El Dorado. He and several friends were on his porch watching the sky when they saw it. Nevertheless there were 20 football players squeezed into his matchbox sized basement.
one of my former students just wrapped up plying football at butler. They have a nice facility out there for being a juco.
Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 4/30/22 at 10:13 pm to
man I hope it’s a long long time before we have one of these again. Junk was terrifying
Posted by Chili Davis
Wichita, KS
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/30/22 at 10:37 pm to
I’m pretty sure that I met Pedro at a running event a few years ago here in Wichita. ULM gear all the way up here. Easy to put 2+2 together, but didn’t want to be awkward guy. Small world sometimes.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/30/22 at 10:46 pm to
What boggles my mind about Reed’s drone video, and maybe this just shows my inexperience with IRL tornados, is how the movement of the tornado is not at all consistent. We always hear things like “the tornado was moving north north east at 45 mph” and in my head that’s a consistent speed but that funnel was super jittery. It would move over on house and almost sort of stay there a few seconds then jump or skip forward 4 or 5 houses then sort of slow down again. Being under one of those would be bad enough let alone the mother fricker nearly stopping on top of you
Posted by Pedro
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Posted on 4/30/22 at 11:04 pm to
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I’m pretty sure that I met Pedro at a running event a few years ago here in Wichita. ULM gear all the way up here. Easy to put 2+2 together, but didn’t want to be awkward guy. Small world sometimes.
yep was definitely me

I think it helps/hurts I’m a pretty open book on here

What event was it?
This post was edited on 4/30/22 at 11:06 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 4/30/22 at 11:07 pm to
This was a deviant tornado, so you can't really use it as a basis for the characteristics of the "average" tornado. Being that this one chose to frick right off from the parent supercell, it was no longer being influenced by that supercell's storm motion or other elements.

That said, what you see is more of an exaggerated representation of your average tornado. You can see the vortex breakdown and the cycle that goes with it. You can see an inflow feature that gets stretched into the vertical. There are the helical meso vortices that are evident. All of it is easily seen because the meso is all alone with no precip with great backlighting.

This tornado puts on display several of the concepts and theories that Dr. Leigh Orf is working on using super computer modeling. It will also be a great case study for deviant motion, the most deviant of deviant motions, that people like Cameron Nixon are studying. Having so much high quality video of this one is great. It was also in a good spot for radar, which is a miracle considering the trends this season of being either in a black hole or right on top of a radar.

As to the random nature of the damage you see, that is due to both the multi-vortex feature and the vortex breakdown process. When those new funnels form they can be incredibly powerful with very strong updrafts. When you see one drop and then the roof of a random home or building fly off, it is that vertical wind speed doing most of the heavy lifting. That's also what launched the many cars in all directions. If that wind can get under an object, it is going straight up. That's why cars are death traps in tornadoes, and the same principle destroys house trailers even with the weaker tornadoes.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
58484 posts
Posted on 4/30/22 at 11:14 pm to
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This was a deviant tornado, so you can't really use it as a basis for the characteristics of the "average" tornado. Being that this one chose to frick right off from the parent supercell, it was no longer being influenced by that supercell's storm motion or other elements.


Well that makes me feel a LITTLE better at least
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