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re: Army Chooses Sig 6.8 mm Next Gen to replace the M4 carbine and M249 Squad Auto

Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:49 pm to
Posted by Tigers0891
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2017
6629 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:49 pm to
The real trick in these are the optics. There are videos on YouTube. They are insanely impressive. How they stand up in the field, anyone knows.

But I saw someone say that the ACOG was questioned when it started seeing widespread issue, but that after it did, the infantry success jumped exponentially overnight.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37600 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:49 pm to
Waste of money. Something like 200k small arms rounds are fired for every enemy combatant killed

Typical government
Posted by MaroonNation
StarkVegas, Mississippi, Bitch!
Member since Nov 2010
21950 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:57 pm to
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Zero knockdown power. Unless its a headshot all you did was piss somebody off.


There’s 2 frickers dead in hell and 1 jacking off with his non-dominant hand in Kinosha, WI, that would beg to differ with you.
Posted by MDB
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2019
3102 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:01 pm to
Could mean an enormous surplus of 223/556 for us over the next several years. Maybe.

223/556 is a good round and allowed us to carry a shite ton of it in combat. Was happy to have 500 rounds of 556 compared to only 150-200 of 762.

6.8 is a good compromise. Wish 6.5 creedmoor would have won out. Another good round.

And Sig is an outstanding American manufacturer.
Posted by Sooner5030
Desert Southwest
Member since Sep 2014
1717 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:02 pm to
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Waste of money. Something like 200k small arms rounds are fired for every enemy combatant killed


Probably due to the fact most ENY KIA are a result of crew served weapons like the M2 .50 Cal and the Mk-19 (40MM), plus mortars, arty, JDAMs, Hellfires, etc.

Small arms are "just in case" and to keep the ENY's heads down.

/anecdotal not data

not meant to offend light guys that think they are a warrior with their M4.
Posted by salty1
Member since Jun 2015
4447 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:08 pm to
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Didnt think I would live to see it.



At least now we know what round will take us out when the FBI gets off a lucky shot. Also, frick those guys.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17512 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:16 pm to
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Was there really a need for an intermediate cartridge halfway between 7mm-08 and 6.5 Creedmoor?


Yes, read more on the 277 Fury and you will understand. It will be the most accurate and lethal round….coming out hot at 80,000 fps.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18435 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:17 pm to
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Zero knockdown power. Unless its a headshot all you did was piss somebody off.


I bet if you took a 75gr Hornady black round in the chest at 300 meters you wouldn’t be posting any longer.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17512 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:17 pm to
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It's all about the specific two-piece case design. You can push the bullets out of shorter barrels with insane velocities. It's a pretty cool design that has neat applications in hunting too.


He gets it!
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
7093 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:18 pm to
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The Army announced Tuesday that it selected Sig Sauer to manufacture and deliver a 6.8 mm Next Generation Squad Weapon to replace the M4 carbine and M249 Squad Automatic Weapon, which both fire the 5.56 mm round.



So in a civilian uprising they could not use government ammo . The government would be 10x better supplied. Civilian stockpiles of 5.56 and .223 would dry up as ammo plants would fall under government control.

It's clear as day here baws...
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 10:20 pm
Posted by Blitzed
Member since Oct 2009
21332 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:19 pm to
Got tons of training with the XM5 in Call of Duty.

Maybe I’ll go volunteer for Ukraine.
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
7093 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:21 pm to
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Got tons of training with the XM5 in Call of Duty.

Maybe I’ll go volunteer for Ukraine


That's the spirit I'm talkin about right there...
Posted by salty1
Member since Jun 2015
4447 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:25 pm to
If I read one of the articles correctly, the 6.8mm military variant has up to 80,000 psi. The .277 civilian version isn’t as hot. Still probably well north of 60,000, but not as hot as the military’s. I wonder if they’ll eventually sell a civilian 6.8? Doubt it will be anytime soon. They’ll keep the civilian version unable to safely fire the 6.8mm yet the military version will fire both. Similar to the early days of 223 only.

Wylde needs to immediately design a .277 that will chamber and fire the 6.8.
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 10:27 pm
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15838 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:27 pm to
Been enjoying the emails from Sig. Should be fun.
Posted by jaytothen
Member since Jan 2020
6447 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:27 pm to
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Zero knockdown power. Unless its a headshot all you did was piss somebody off.


Kyle Rittenhouse proved this false
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21972 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:30 pm to
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Garbage, been known since Vietnam.


Better to remain silent and be thought a fool…….
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13355 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:34 pm to
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.coming out hot at 80,000 fps.


No. Up to 80,000 psi pressure. You’re about 77,000 fps high.
Posted by salty1
Member since Jun 2015
4447 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:36 pm to
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not meant to offend light guys that think they are a warrior with their M4.


LOL...I’ll frick you up with just my ka-bar.

Seriously though...combined anti armor FTW!
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18435 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:37 pm to
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And Sig is an outstanding American manufacturer.


Their higher end optics are pretty good. Most of their budget stuff is Chinese shite.

They innovate which I give high marks but wish they would cut down some of the bling stuff they put out.

One of the finest guns I own is a Sig X5 tactical 226 SAO. It’s a masterworks gun that came out of Germany before they banned exports.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 10:39 pm to
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Kyle Rittenhouse proved this false
Yes he did.

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