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Army Chooses Sig 6.8 mm Next Gen to replace the M4 carbine and M249 Squad Auto
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:06 pm
Does this mean democrats days of calling AR-15s weapons of war are numbered?
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The Army announced Tuesday that it selected Sig Sauer to manufacture and deliver a 6.8 mm Next Generation Squad Weapon to replace the M4 carbine and M249 Squad Automatic Weapon, which both fire the 5.56 mm round.
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The $4.7 billion rifle and automatic rifle weapons contract and the $2.7 billion contract for the advanced, computer-assisted fire control optic that works with both weapons, are the most substantial changes to individual- or squad-level small arms in generations.
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There are no current plans to issue the NGSW to non-close combat soldiers. Soldiers in fields other than those listed or not assigned to a direct combat unit will continue to use the M4 options and the M249 SAW, Burris said. And if their commands choose, special operations forces and combat arms Marines will also be included in fielding plans, officials said.
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The Army chose the 6.8 mm round following the publication of the 2017 Small Arms Ammunition Configuration Study. The study was driven in part by advances in adversary body armor and field reports of underperformance and lackluster lethality for the 5.56 mm round at distances beyond 300 meters in Afghanistan gun battles. In Army research, officials said, the 6.8 mm round outperforms the 5.56 mm on distance, accuracy and energy for lethal effects on target. That measure counts for lethal effects on either protected or unprotected targets.
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While the 5.56 mm reaches its lethality limits at or before the 300 meter range, the 6.8 mm can effectively destroy targets at 600 meters and beyond, according to Army officials. For civilian shooters, the 6.8 mm baseline measurements resemble a beefed-up version of a familiar cartridge from the hunting world, the .270 caliber rifle round.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:08 pm to DingLeeBerry
Where will they be manufactured?
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:10 pm to DingLeeBerry
That last optic looks heavy AF
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:14 pm to DingLeeBerry
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5.56 mm
Garbage, been known since Vietnam.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:14 pm to DingLeeBerry
Jack O'Connor is smiling somewhere.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:15 pm to DingLeeBerry
I think the most important question facing America right now is how quickly can we get pallets of these into Ukraine?
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:15 pm to DingLeeBerry
Was there really a need for an intermediate cartridge halfway between 7mm-08 and 6.5 Creedmoor?
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:15 pm to NPComb
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Work locations and funding will be determined with each order, with an estimated completion date of April 18, 2032.
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As the Epping, New Hampshire-based company builds an ammo manufacturing line, the Army is funding work at Lake City Army Ammunition Plant near Independence, Missouri, the key producer of most small arms ammunition production. The Lake City plant is adding an entire line and building, which are expected to be completed by fiscal 2025, solely for the manufacture of 6.8 mm ammunition.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:17 pm to Squirrelmeister
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Was there really a need for an intermediate cartridge halfway between 7mm-08 and 6.5 Creedmoor?
I’m guessing they want something the general population doesn’t have access too...Bibles and guns and stuff?
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:28 pm to Lakeboy7
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Garbage, been known since Vietnam.
It is not.
Linked timestamp of Kevin Owens (former Army CIF) talking about 5.56 capabilities
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:29 pm to Squirrelmeister
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between 7mm-08 and 6.5 Creedmoor?
The Creedmoor was one of the finalist. 7.62 is just to heavy, this is a nice compromise.
Sig won because they made the investment in ammo production.
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:32 pm to Squirrelmeister
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Was there really a need for an intermediate cartridge halfway between 7mm-08 and 6.5 Creedmoor?
It's all about the specific two-piece case design. You can push the bullets out of shorter barrels with insane velocities. It's a pretty cool design that has neat applications in hunting too.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:32 pm to DingLeeBerry
It’s about goddamn time.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:32 pm to Lakeboy7
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Garbage, been known since Vietnam.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:34 pm to ChatRabbit77
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It is not.
Zero knockdown power. Unless its a headshot all you did was piss somebody off.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:36 pm to Lakeboy7
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Zero knockdown power
The fact that you said "knockdown power" tells me everything I need to know about your knowledge of ballistics and firearms.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:40 pm to salty1
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It’s about goddamn time.
Didnt think I would live to see it.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:45 pm to Aquila
The Russians and Chinese are big believers in “we have reserves”.
Wounding their guys won’t necessarily have the same morale effect as doing so to our guys.
Wounding their guys won’t necessarily have the same morale effect as doing so to our guys.
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