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Is any live TV broadcast in 4K these days?

Posted on 3/30/22 at 12:29 pm
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27868 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 12:29 pm
Obviously cable doesn’t, but do any of the streaming services like Sling or YouTube tv or any others broadcast in 4K?

I got a shiny new TV and would like to watch live sports and such in 4K rather than the heavily compressed cable feed.
Posted by Harambe
Cincinnati Zoo
Member since Aug 2016
296 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 1:22 pm to
I have YouTube TV and I keep getting a prompt to upgrade to the 4K service option. I see specific games in the live guide you can buy the 4K stream.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91584 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 1:24 pm to
you seek ATSC 3.0

LINK

its a whole lotta 'coming soon'
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80521 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 1:59 pm to
Very little 4k broadcast content
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

I keep getting a prompt to upgrade to the 4K service option

Don't do it. I did and immediately cancelled when I saw how few things there were in 4K that I had any interest in.
Not even remotely worth the price.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
17091 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 3:21 pm to
We got a new TV for Christmas. Did the free 4K free trial with YouTube TV and cancelled after a week. Not worth it when there's like 5 total shows/events a week that have the option of watching in 4K.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6193 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 3:36 pm to
Echoing what the others are saying about the 4k youtube addon. It's not worth it.

Get yourself an antenna. If you're able to pickup local channels, you may find that the broadcast HD quality is actually better than what you get streaming.
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1579 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 4:04 pm to
This thread keeps track of all 4K live events/sports. DirecTV typically has the most content available. The first post of the thread is updated every month. There are pdf attachments in the first post that has the current month schedule and what platform(s) it is available on.

https://www.avsforum.com/threads/4k-live-sports-and-events-schedule-updated-03-29-2022.3006930/

For example here is what is availble this month:
https://www.avsforum.com/attachments/march-2022-03292022-2030edt-pdf.3259635/
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50939 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 4:44 pm to
If you have a really good Sony OLED, the processor that converts HD to 4K is outstanding. You have a difficult time telling the difference.

quote:

Sony claims its 'lens to living room' approach is unique since it takes advantage of Sony Picture's vast experience with producing movies and TV shows, as well as its expertise manufacturing 4K video cameras used by the TV and movie industry.

"When you're upscaling from Full HD to 4K there is a lot of guesswork, and what we're trying to do it to remove as much of the guesswork as possible." Sony's 4K X-Reality PRO, like other picture processors, upscales at a pixel level. "It doesn't just look at the pixel in isolation, it looks at the pixels around it, and on each diagonal, and also it will look up the pixels across multiple frames, to give a consistency in the picture quality,"


LINK

BTW - many 4K Blu-Rays are upconverted HD. LINK
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31664 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 4:57 pm to
quote:

you seek ATSC 3.0

LINK

its a whole lotta 'coming soon'


Not super optimistic on timeline, but I didn't know there was anything in the wings re: OTA transmission, period. Thanks for posting that
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
33248 posts
Posted on 3/30/22 at 9:32 pm to
DTV it’s included and they have the most content
Posted by bayouvette
Raceland
Member since Oct 2005
5602 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 3:10 pm to
Direct TV has about 5 channels. I can't believe more sports are not 4k. It's probably been 3 years since they first broadcasted a college football game in 4k. I thought for sure the final 4 would have been, but I guess that also depends on who owns the right to air that sport at that time.

It's pretty damn stupid. There are 8k tvs and we still struggling for 4k content. True 4k. Not movies scaled
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53103 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 6:55 pm to
Not to mention that if you don't have unlimited internet data 4k will chew through it pretty quickly
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1579 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 9:42 pm to
quote:

Direct TV has about 5 channels. I can't believe more sports are not 4k.


I remember 2-3 years ago when Fox broadcasted the Superbowl in 4K. They talked about this before the game. While almost all the cameras were 4K, the production facility was only able to handle all the camera feeds at 1080p (i.e add graphics etc). When the feed went out on satellite, it was then upconverted to 4K. Though it still looked pretty good for an upconvert as the video included HDR.

Imo HDR is a bigger improvement than 4K resolution. You have to be sitting very close to your TV to see all that extra detail while HDR impact is easily more noticeable at a distance.
Posted by Tortious
ATX
Member since Nov 2010
5663 posts
Posted on 4/5/22 at 1:48 pm to
Fox Sports has some stuff occasionally, but not sure what they are offering currently. You have to use the app on your TV though and it's usually upscaled, but is still 4K with HDR as poster notes. There isn't much out there unfortunately which is sad.
Posted by pheroy
Raleigh, NC
Member since Oct 2006
742 posts
Posted on 4/5/22 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

Imo HDR is a bigger improvement than 4K resolution. You have to be sitting very close to your TV to see all that extra detail while HDR impact is easily more noticeable at a distance.



Agree with this overall. But to take it the next step, how much does HDR add for sports? You're already talking about a picture that's almost entirely pretty bright, not a high contrast type program with a lot of dark areas on screen at the same time as bright areas. That's where HDR shines and what it was designed for.

Sports going from SD to HD was huge b/c in addition to a very noticeable increase in sharpness, the change in aspect ratio gave a wider field of view. IMO the jump from 2K (HD) to 4K isn't as significant for sports as it is for movies and TV series.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
Lift every voice and sing
Member since Oct 2011
40616 posts
Posted on 4/5/22 at 3:33 pm to
Usually see a couple NBA games in 4k every week. The pickings are slim though.

Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
14675 posts
Posted on 4/5/22 at 4:05 pm to
Most broadcasts still aren’t even in 1080p.

It’s 1080i or 720p
Posted by gpburdell
ATL
Member since Jun 2015
1579 posts
Posted on 4/5/22 at 8:01 pm to
quote:

You're already talking about a picture that's almost entirely pretty bright, not a high contrast type program with a lot of dark areas on screen at the same time as bright areas. That's where HDR shines and what it was designed for.


Sure specular highlights especially in a dark scene is where HDR really pops. Though wide color gamut (1.7 billion colors vs 16.7 million) is just as big as an improvement as HDR and important in any scene with alot of color. Technically WCG and HDR are separate from one another, but you almost always get them together and most people lump them together as HDR.
Posted by Sisselpud81
Member since Jan 2022
635 posts
Posted on 4/5/22 at 11:59 pm to
Youtube tv is apparently the only streaming service that charges for 4k. Fubo does this at no additional charge. Yttv charges 20 a month. I like yttv bu they can suck my arse on the 4k deal.
This post was edited on 4/6/22 at 12:00 am
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