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Four Western Provocations That Led to U.S.-Russia Crisis Today
Posted on 3/6/22 at 6:16 am
Posted on 3/6/22 at 6:16 am
*Note: This was written prior to initiation of the current war.
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Four Western Provocations That Led to U.S.-Russia Crisis Today
The one-sided indictments of Moscow’s behavior invariably ignore numerous missteps that took place, beginning with President Clinton.
By Ted Galen Carpenter
December 21, 2021
U.S. and NATO officials, as well as most of the Western news media, contend that Russia is to blame for the current ugly confrontation. They highlight four Kremlin actions that severely spiked East-?West tensions. The first episode, according to that version of history, occurred in 2008 when Russian forces invaded Georgia and advanced to the outskirts of the capital, Tbilisi. A second, even more serious offense, took place in 2014 when Russia seized Crimea from Ukraine and annexed that strategic peninsula after holding a bogus referendum. The third incident followed just months later when Russia orchestrated a separatist insurgency in Ukraine’s eastern Donbas region and then sent in troops to assist the rebellion. During the years that followed, Vladimir Putin’s government exacerbated the emerging cold war by interfering in the internal political affairs of numerous Western countries, especially the United States.
Those allegations contain some truth, but all of them conveniently omit crucial context. For example, the 2008 invasion of Georgia occurred only after the Georgian military fired on Russian peacekeeping troops that had been in the secessionist region of South Ossetia since the early 1990s. Even a European Union investigation concluded that Georgian forces had initiated the fighting. The conflict also occurred in large part because President George W. Bush encouraged Georgia’s president, Mikheil Saakashvili, to believe that the United States and NATO would support his country if it became embroiled in a conflict with Russia.
Putin’s seizure of Crimea was indeed a blatant violation of international law, but it occurred only after the United States and key EU allies had shamelessly assisted demonstrators to overthrow Ukraine’s elected pro-?Russia president, Viktor Yanukovych. That thinly disguised coup triggered Russian fears that Ukraine was about to become a forward staging area for NATO military power. Among other worries, the Kremlin suspected that it would lose access to its crucial naval base at Sevastopol on the Crimea peninsula and watch that facility become a hostile NATO base.
The one-?sided, self-?serving indictments of Russia’s behavior invariably ignore the numerous Western provocations that took place long before Moscow engaged in disruptive measures. Indeed, the deterioration of the West’s relations with post-?communist Russia began during Bill Clinton’s administration. . . .
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This post was edited on 3/6/22 at 6:17 am
Posted on 3/6/22 at 6:21 am to NC_Tigah
Clearly if Ukraine had just done what Putin told them, Putin wouldn't have invaded Ukraine.
Posted on 3/6/22 at 6:25 am to NC_Tigah
I love that they're trying to make invading countries commensurate with the relatively minor transgressions that "led" to them.
Posted on 3/6/22 at 6:31 am to NC_Tigah
My takeaway from that article is that Putin doesn't trust the CIA, the Bushes, or the Clintons,, because they've been lying to him for 30 years.
Not hard to swallow.
Not hard to swallow.
Posted on 3/6/22 at 7:46 am to jonnyanony
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I love that they're trying to make invading countries commensurate with the relatively minor transgressions that "led" to them.
Someone forgot the Peace of Westphalia.
Or hell, for that matter all of the squawking about Russia, Russia, Russia "meddling" in the 2016 election.
"Minor transgressions" indeed.
Posted on 3/6/22 at 7:47 am to NC_Tigah
As I said, the USA fricked up in the 90s not trying to forge an alliance with Russia.
Posted on 3/6/22 at 7:50 am to jonnyanony
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love that they're trying to make invading countries commensurate with the relatively minor transgressions that "led" to them
Yep. Pitiful.
Posted on 3/6/22 at 7:56 am to NYNolaguy1
quote:Putin has every right to protect himself and his country from the same FCKRY that is being inflicted currently BY ELECTION STEALING CRIMINALS in our country.
Clearly if Ukraine had just done what Putin told them, Putin wouldn't have invaded Ukraine.
The same people, in fact...
The truth awaits your visit.
This post was edited on 3/6/22 at 9:48 am
Posted on 3/6/22 at 8:00 am to JJJimmyJimJames
The US Govt is lying and thieving and the Russians have been trying to deal with the same deep state that sees no problem with overturning elections and hounding duely elected officials out of office.
It isn't easy dealing with the Americans. Ask its own citizens.
It isn't easy dealing with the Americans. Ask its own citizens.
Posted on 3/6/22 at 8:08 am to RiverCityTider
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It isn't easy dealing with the Americans. Ask its own citizens.
no kidding,
it fricks us over on the reg
Posted on 3/6/22 at 8:14 am to NYNolaguy1
How many tigerdroppings accounts have you guys hacked?
Posted on 3/6/22 at 8:19 am to bama1959
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How many tigerdroppings accounts have you guys hacked?
I believe social engineering is the proper term.
Posted on 3/6/22 at 8:20 am to bama1959
Thanks NC.
Some of you are so blind to the meddling we have done for the last century in other countries affairs, including the overthrow of several of them.
We frickin invented Panama, thats right we invented it.
The whole Cuban mess is our mess.
How about South Sudan, the country George Clooney and obama invented, now its a disaster along with Sudan, that was brilliant.
Letting hillary rape Haiti while they were on their knees begging for help was classic American diplomacy, but they dont have oil so no one gave a shat that all the money that was donated was stolen.
And dont get me started on the frickin mess in the middle east.
I could give another dozen examples.
Putin, unlike the lot of you that sat around and let an election be stolen and then were told "you have no standing" Putin decided to dictate the terms before being told the same.
Bunch of self righteous knuckleheads, complaining about Putin doing what the US has done for centuries.
Some of you are so blind to the meddling we have done for the last century in other countries affairs, including the overthrow of several of them.
We frickin invented Panama, thats right we invented it.
The whole Cuban mess is our mess.
How about South Sudan, the country George Clooney and obama invented, now its a disaster along with Sudan, that was brilliant.
Letting hillary rape Haiti while they were on their knees begging for help was classic American diplomacy, but they dont have oil so no one gave a shat that all the money that was donated was stolen.
And dont get me started on the frickin mess in the middle east.
I could give another dozen examples.
Putin, unlike the lot of you that sat around and let an election be stolen and then were told "you have no standing" Putin decided to dictate the terms before being told the same.
Bunch of self righteous knuckleheads, complaining about Putin doing what the US has done for centuries.
Posted on 3/6/22 at 8:23 am to NYNolaguy1
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I believe social engineering is the proper term.
Yeah we witnessed that with you low iq posters the last 7yrs
5 with drumpf and 2 with the Rona
Posted on 3/6/22 at 8:24 am to SDVTiger
The problem is the hysteria and average IQ here make it too easy to dupe the everyday poster here.
Anyone remember Q?
Anyone remember Q?
Posted on 3/6/22 at 8:32 am to NC_Tigah
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For example, the 2008 invasion of Georgia occurred only after the Georgian military fired on Russian peacekeeping troops
Posted on 3/6/22 at 8:34 am to NYNolaguy1
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The problem is the hysteria and average IQ here make it too easy to dupe the everyday poster here.
Anyone remember Q?
Do you remember the Russian Dossier, Ukraine call, the wall, N Korea and Rona hysteria etc with you clowns?
Posted on 3/6/22 at 8:35 am to NC_Tigah
Led to?
No
We’re a factor in the situation?
Probably
At the end of the day Putin decided to invade.
Perhaps he realized that the usurper would not go the way of diplomacy. But nonetheless, the decision was ultimately his.
No
We’re a factor in the situation?
Probably
At the end of the day Putin decided to invade.
Perhaps he realized that the usurper would not go the way of diplomacy. But nonetheless, the decision was ultimately his.
Posted on 3/6/22 at 8:36 am to NYNolaguy1
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Clearly if Ukraine had just done what Putin told them, Putin wouldn't have invaded Ukraine.
Maybe it’s bc they were doing everything we wanted, and we staged a bloody coup until they did.
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