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Biden flirting with NATO membership for Ukraine was reckless.

Posted on 3/4/22 at 7:57 pm
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
24902 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 7:57 pm
This needs to be said over and over and over and over.
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3746 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 7:58 pm to
Fo sho’.
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
6528 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:43 pm to
It was purposeful. Of course, he didn't write it.

Posted by rt3
now in the piney woods of Pineville
Member since Apr 2011
146217 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:47 pm to
both NATO & Ukraine are too old for Biden to want to flirt with
Posted by saintsfan225
Member since Aug 2014
198 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:49 pm to
Let me make this clear, Biden started this war. Ukraine was not a memberr of NATO and never wanted to be. Biden pushed the issue after Putin told him to stop. Biden Pushed the issue and Putin reacted. It would be the same as Putin asking Mexico to join the USSR
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:50 pm to
They said they were gonna put Nukes in the Ukraine. "But Putin's the aggressor!".
Posted by saintsfan225
Member since Aug 2014
198 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:55 pm to
he straight up caused this war, he is a war criminal.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
12561 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:55 pm to
quote:

Ukraine was not a memberr of NATO and never wanted to be.


Ermmm...Ukraine started the process as far back as 2008 so "never wanted it" is not true.

With that said...ANY current NATO member can block a new member from joining. It only takes one country to say no. Any of the 30 or so NATO countries could have spoken up and said Ukraine would never be a NATO member.

All of this could have been stopped as far back as Bill Clinton.

This is occurring now because Biden is weak and ineffective.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:59 pm to
So two sovereign nations can't enter a pact, because a crazy dictator will get his feelings hurt.

frick off.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20226 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:03 pm to
quote:

Biden is weak and ineffective.
He was one of the dumbest and most corrupt members of Congress when he had a semi-functional brain.

Senility hasn’t improved him
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 9:04 pm
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
24902 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

So two sovereign nations can't enter a pact, because a crazy dictator will get his feelings hurt.


I’m rarely this blunt here, but you’re a fricking idiot.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:25 pm to
quote:

So two sovereign nations can't enter a pact, because a crazy dictator will get his feelings hurt. frick off.


That’s exactly right. We should be entering pacts with small nations on the border of one of our biggest adversaries half way around the globe.

That’s a recipe for a disaster
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
16135 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 10:47 pm to
quote:

So two sovereign nations can't enter a pact, because a crazy dictator will get his feelings hurt.


This. The amount of Putin cock sucking going on around here is disgraceful.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135339 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 4:27 am to
quote:

Ukraine was not a memberr of NATO and never wanted to be
Well that's not true. Ukraine AND Georgia badly want a place behind NATO's petticoats.

But to what end? What value reward would those countries impart to NATO? What risk would their inclusion entail? Apparently those questions did not occur to Condi and W during the 2008 Bucharest Summit Declaration as NATO matter-of-factly declared Ukraine & Georgia "will become members of NATO." Nor did such questions apparently occur to Obama or Biden.

So yes, Biden played footsie with Zelensky on the NATO issue, and yes that started the war.
This post was edited on 3/5/22 at 4:29 am
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26253 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 4:30 am to
quote:

So two sovereign nations


There's that word again that sheep say.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135339 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 4:42 am to
quote:

So two sovereign nations can't enter a pact, because a crazy dictator will get his feelings hurt.
So two sovereign nations can't enter a pact, because a crazy POTUS named Monroe declared it so in a doctrine? Seems like a double standard.

Putin finds the precept of strategic bombers flying in airspace 1 minute away from Russia along a 1200 mile border to be threatening. You call that crazy? You're either incredibly dishonest, or have lost your grip on reality.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135339 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 4:46 am to
quote:

The amount of Putin cock sucking going on around here is disgraceful.
Aside from exposing your homophobia, what were you hoping to accomplish with that comment?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28086 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 5:32 am to
So Trump sending them lethal aid was reckless?

How bout Biden being such a pussy that waived sanctions on Nord Stream II TWICE?

GTFO with this "flirting with NATO" bullshite was a provocation.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
79764 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 6:01 am to
quote:

Well that's not true. Ukraine AND Georgia badly want a place behind NATO's petticoats.

But to what end? What value reward would those countries impart to NATO?


We never viewed them as reliable NATO material and did'nt want them.

All we had to do is say that to Russia and they relax.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
16512 posts
Posted on 3/5/22 at 6:05 am to
quote:

Ukraine was not a memberr of NATO and never wanted to be.





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