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Question for military guys on here: why is Russia sending lightly equipped ground troops?

Posted on 2/27/22 at 12:31 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73117 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 12:31 pm
Watching the videos coming in last night and this morning, it seems like Russia is sending in lightly equipped ground forces with little to no heavy ordinance/equipment into the urban areas and the residential suburbs.

That seems like no way to take a city.

We saw it in kharkiv, sumy, etc.

Is it reconnaissance?

They are sitting ducks.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93166 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 12:32 pm to
Well they are having peace talks right?

Why send in the heavy baws
Posted by Bearcat90
The Land
Member since Nov 2021
2955 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 12:34 pm to
Their machinery is getting taken out with armor piercing RPG's. Russia entered a death pit.
Posted by NashvilleTider
Your Mom
Member since Jan 2007
15186 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 12:36 pm to
The media has made Russia to be some super power - they are poor and since the fall of the ussr their tech is trash
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 12:43 pm to
Lighter log tail.

A single tank is about the most fuel inefficient vehicle out there. As an example, just idling while you do motor maintenance on an M1 burns 30+ gallons of fuel.
This post was edited on 2/27/22 at 12:45 pm
Posted by toratiger
susukino
Member since Aug 2008
3351 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 12:48 pm to
Either the Ruskies are not as strong as we were lead to believe, or they are playing rope a dope. The jury is still out. IMO
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
53457 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 12:51 pm to
Could be that the whole operation is, at this point, largely composed of light motorized columns conducting probes and recon-in-force ops.

We have some pics of Russian tanks, so, there do seem to be some heavy mech columns involved.

Russian special forces are surely involved.

Putin's strategy may be to utilize these military ops as a fulcrum/lever that will compel Ukraine to settle things with Russia at the negotiating table. But, to be honest, I don't understand Putin's thinking at this point.
Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
7606 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 12:53 pm to
Perhaps Putin is sending in his 3rd stringers and almost worn out equipment ( he underestimated Ukraine resolve).
Perhaps he doesn't want to get his good stuff dirty and torn up.
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
35394 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 12:55 pm to
Eastern Europe in general is super poor and depressing.
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8836 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 12:55 pm to
1. Russia doesn’t have combined arms capabilities on par with us. Don’t expect similar results.

2. When you know your enemy has stinger missiles and javelins throwing helos and tanks out front is a dangerous approach. Unsupported armor is at high risk
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6176 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 12:56 pm to
I mean, Rambo, would have killed them all by himself by now.

Edit: The point is Hollywood has influenced too many people.

What makes a nation strong militarily today is not what it was 50 years ago.
This post was edited on 2/27/22 at 12:57 pm
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19084 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 12:57 pm to
They’re trying to force concessions rather than flatten the place.
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
22832 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

I mean, Rambo, would have killed them all by himself by now.


Rambo only killed one person in first blood.
Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
8110 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 1:01 pm to
Cities are a death trap for heavy armor.
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6176 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 1:03 pm to
Technically, gravity did. So yeah, even gravity is on Rambo's side.

But that was only the beginning. He was stacking Russian bodies by the dozen in subsequent films.
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
8942 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 1:05 pm to
The oddity is that the power is still on and the water works fully engaged.

The US approach would be quite different. Transmission lines go down two or three towers from a power plant. Everything turns black. The same transmission lines take down water works and communications. Within one week of the war being over, lights back on, water and communications. Hit a power plant directly and it's lights out for a year or more. Two or three towers worth of high voltage lines are easy to replace.

I'm beginning to think the myths surrounding Cyber Security attacks are just that. If not bombs....both the US, Western Allies and all of Ukraine would be silent, if the myth worked. Putin has no direct control over anything ....and that makes the Chicken Little scare tactics of the US Government all the more suspicious.
What gives the impression for example, that a cyber security breech o a power plant at Florida Power and Light would ever turn the lights off at Los Angeles Department of Water and Power? Hint .....it doesn't and the government is dumb enough to try to use it as a scare tactic.
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 1:09 pm to
quote:

why is Russia sending lightly equipped ground troops


If you want to move fast, you don't go heavy.

If you compare it to the blitzkrieg Germany did on France, Russia is actually gaining ground faster.
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
10310 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 1:16 pm to
Depending on how many Javelins they think Ukraine has.

Get that armor on city streets where it can’t maneuver and guys on rooftops with javelins can damage armor very fast.

Not to mention I don’t think Putin wants to destroy the city. He wants to look like a liberator not a destroyer
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39299 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 1:20 pm to
Saw videos of two Frogfoots being taken down by SAM'S. 70% of the population is armed and mobilized to fight an insurgency. Russians bit off more than they could chew.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14378 posts
Posted on 2/27/22 at 1:21 pm to
Could be a number of reasons.

Current attacks are probing in nature. Once weakness is found then elite units are sent into those holes.

Current attacks are intended to pull Ukraine forces into the east so the can circle their troops

Current attacks are a faint attack. Main attack will be in another location

Most troops were deployed to Belarus. May be setting up for invasion of Baltic states or Poland. And Ukraine was diversion.

May be hopping for refugees to spill into Poland and SE Europe before making full attack. Less civilian casualties

This is just an attack to claim separatist regions.

Or other things we can’t thing of

Only Putin and his command staff know if there are behind schedule or not. As they only know the full plan.
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