re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

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As savy as you are, I bet you bought a thousand shares.

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If I'm going to criticize our politicians for using a conflict to get rich, it would be hypocritical of myself to do the same.

Like I said in a previous post you'd be doing pretty good for yourself if you invested in several of the MIC companies when Russia really started ramping up mobilization in fall of 2021.

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lol, so you didn’t!!! lol Ne either.

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Intelligent response, as always

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Seriously how can anyone believe it’s US aid that’s killing Ukrainians and not Russian armies. I guess Ukraine was supposed to surrender day one and let the Russians roll right in and take over.

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We’re prolonging a hopeless war, a war we provoked, and are thus responsible for the deaths of 100,000s of Ukranians. Millions will never return to Ukraine, and it will take decades for the country to recover.

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I guess Ukraine was supposed to surrender day one and let the Russians roll right in and take over.

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Like all of us I had family who fought to the very end, and surrendered with Lee at Appomattox.

Kievs best option was to come to a quick negotiated peace, that gave up as little as possible, and to refight the war at a later date when the odds favored them.

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The Russians look very confident, and they’re talking about very maximalist goals. Medvedev spoke last week about how both banks of the Dnieper were Russia. Losses are also low, and the advantage is increasingly moving in the Russian direction. They’re only getting more powerful relative to Ukraine.

Kiev could be a city in Western Russia when this over.

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This could be public posturing to use in peace talks though.

Like when a politician requests a crazy amount of funding for something. "I want $10m for X thing!" and their opponents counter with $2m, then they eventually settle on $6m. Doesn't stop people from getting mad at the original guy for asking for 10, and other people getting mad at the other party for countering with only 2.

Calm down, Volodymyr

ANALYSIS: Kyiv Missile Takes Out Another Kremlin Warship – This One the Oldest in Russia’s Whole Fleet

Commented Ukraine Naval Forces official spokesman Dmitro Pletenchuk of the hit on Kommuna: “This will keep happening until the Russians run out of ships.”

A complex chain of Ukrainian air operations and ground strikes around the occupied Crimea peninsula culminated on Saturday with at least one hit by a heavy, long-range anti-ship missile on a Kremlin warship, putting the oldest vessel in the entire Russian navy out of action, probably for months.

The rescue ship Kommuna, a vessel built during the Tsarist era and still used by Russia’s Sevastopol-based Black Sea Fleet (BSF) for deep sea rescues and submarine tending, was set afire following multiple explosions during a daylight attack, local news and social media sources said. Some reports said a single missile hit the Kommuna amidships.

A complex chain of Ukrainian air operations and ground strikes around the occupied Crimea peninsula culminated on Saturday with at least one hit by a heavy, long-range anti-ship missile on a Kremlin warship, putting the oldest vessel in the entire Russian navy out of action, probably for months.

The rescue ship Kommuna, a vessel built during the Tsarist era and still used by Russia’s Sevastopol-based Black Sea Fleet (BSF) for deep sea rescues and submarine tending, was set afire following multiple explosions during a daylight attack, local news and social media sources said. Some reports said a single missile hit the Kommuna amidships.

Pletenchuk in Monday’s comments to Radio Svoboda said Russian naval officials had tied the Kommuna up with blocking vessels on either side in an attempt to protect the high-value vessel from missile attack.

According to a Monday report in the military news publication Defense Express, a modernized Neptune missile probably launched from Ukraine’s Kherson region used artificial intelligence to select the Kommuna, the biggest warship currently tied up in Sevastopol harbor.

A hulking, 100-meter-long vessel rigged with multiple cranes and boasting a fighting record stretching back to the First World War, the Kommuna was the modern Russian Black Sea Fleet’s sole vessel capable of deep-water salvage operations.

The Kommuna and her crew led salvage operations following Ukraine’s most spectacular naval victory to date, the April 2022 sinking of the Black Sea Fleet’s then-flagship, the heavy missile cruiser Moskva.

A secondary mission for the Kommuna had been to load Kaliber cruise missiles aboard Russian submarines based at Sevastopol, for transport into the Black Sea and subsequent launch at Ukrainian homes or businesses. At the start of the full-scale war, the BSF operated five Kaliber-capable submarines based at the port. One sub, the Rosov-na-Danu, was demolished and written off following a pair of anti-ship missile hits on Sept. 13.

FACT CHECK

Regarding a recent Ukrainian missile attack on the Russian warship Kommuna, the Russian governor of Crimea Razvozhaev said there was no hit to the warship and that there was only minor damage to the ground from falling debris. Fact-checking video showed fires and thick smoke dated to the day of the attack, and geo-located to Sevastopol port, burning in the central portion of the Kommuna’s main deck. These fact checks made clear the Russian official Razvozhaev was either badly informed or lying, what he said did not happen.

The Kyiv Post


Kommuna is irreplaceable in a different sense. She’s a naval time traveler from a bygone era. A museum exhibit that, incredibly, is still in use generations after other vessels her age have rusted away to nothing.

And in losing Kommuna—temporarily or permanently—the Black Sea Fleet also loses a critical capability. Kommuna is a twin-hull catamaran: basically, a ship with a big open space in the middle through which her crew can launch and recover miniature rescue submarines or lift objects such as pieces of sunken vessels from the seafloor.

FORBES - The Russian Warship ‘Kommuna’ Is Special: A 111-Year-Old Veteran Of Three Fleets And Three Wars. The Ukrainian Navy Attacked Her Anyway.

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