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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:22 am to LSUPilot07
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:22 am to LSUPilot07
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I’m all about funding for improving our aging infrastructure.
Its most likely a universal issue thats supported.
I too have major issues with the bullshite they ride on the bill though. Bunch of logrolling.
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Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:24 am to ColtRange
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I hate the direction my country is going because I love my country.
I'm pretty sure your country is Russia given your post history and new account. You did make your second post about SEC sports, I guess for some sort of camouflage, but every other post you've made has been in this tread. And fairly low key but always with a pro-Russia slant. You are much better at what you do than the terrible Russian trolls who popped up here with regularity, I'll give you that.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:25 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Maybe we shouldn't have forced Ukraine to give up nukes 30 years ago..
Ukraine was convinced to give up their nukes with promises from America, UK and Russia to guarantee their sovereignty. That looks like a mistake on their part.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:29 am to OGtigerfan87
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Wow we finally have one that openly admits to supporting Russia. New low for this site but so be it. Of course it is under the weak guise of “we have too many problems at home” like the 2 have any real connection. We can support a country that was invaded in an unprovoked attack by the western worlds longtime geopolitical enemy and make better policy decisions at home. One doesn’t really have anything to do with the other.
Yes, if only Ukraine falls then the US can finally fix all of our problems. That’s their message.
But the war was only put into overdrive just over 16 months ago, and it wasn’t as if we were doing anything but waste money in more domestic boondoggles to control our climate, buy more votes for the Dems, or piss off more money on some liberal welfare scheme.
Their BS doesn’t add up.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:30 am to Auburn1968
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That looks like a mistake on their part.
It absolutely was.
The only reason they "trust us" now is the enormous amount of money we've given them and CIA shenanigans.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:31 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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This is the first true statement you've made.
No, the roots for this were laid in 2014 when Russia annexed Crimea. But like someone else just said above, you're high if you think we are just gonna stand by and just let a sovereign nation be attacked unprovoked in an effort by Russia to reclaim the USSR.
The Kievan Rus cousins have been at odds with each other since Moscow sold their Kiev cousins out to the Mongols.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:33 am to jmarto1
It sucks to have to fight Russia. It sucks to have to get in bed with Ukraine. They are a lot more like Russians than they are to us. They have historically been the most corrupt European nation for years. Many of the crooks purged from post Soviet era ended up in Ukraine.
But as bad as the Ukrainians are, the Russians are worse. We have to fight them, even if it’s a draw to deplete their military.
If we bleed them enough in Ukraine, they won’t have the will to mess with Poland. The Nordic States are already in nato. They will be bracketed.
What concerns me is, Russia with a despot leader, a depleted military, a collapsing demographic, is still a nuclear power. I know some of you guys poo poo the idea the that he would ever use them, but I don’t trust them to think like we do. The babushkas gladly see their grandchildren fight the “West”. There is still a large portion of the Russians that will support war with the West no matter the cost. They don’t think like we do.
But as bad as the Ukrainians are, the Russians are worse. We have to fight them, even if it’s a draw to deplete their military.
If we bleed them enough in Ukraine, they won’t have the will to mess with Poland. The Nordic States are already in nato. They will be bracketed.
What concerns me is, Russia with a despot leader, a depleted military, a collapsing demographic, is still a nuclear power. I know some of you guys poo poo the idea the that he would ever use them, but I don’t trust them to think like we do. The babushkas gladly see their grandchildren fight the “West”. There is still a large portion of the Russians that will support war with the West no matter the cost. They don’t think like we do.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:35 am to ColtRange
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I support Russia because I want the US to stay out of bull shite like this.
Naive. Russia could take over the world piece by piece and you'd be okay with it. Pick off one country after another until they get whatever it is that they want.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:45 am to ColtRange
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Ukraine winning would only ensure politicians keep manufacturing conflicts and laundering money all over the world. We have a million problems here, imagine if that effort was dedicated to fixing our crumbling infrastructure or crime in our cities.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:47 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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Naive. Russia could take over the world piece by piece and you'd be okay with it.
From reading this board, Russia doesn't have the military coordination to beat a high school ROTC squad.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:47 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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You should be charged with treason. Same goes for anyone else who openly supports Russia for any reason.
You sound insane.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:48 am to ColtRange
You just hit every square on my bingo card
Posted on 7/7/23 at 11:51 am to SteelerBravesDawg
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I was in West Baghdad from May '03-March '04 so I do not take war lightly.
Another great example of the US military meddling and an outstanding outcome...
Posted on 7/7/23 at 12:08 pm to ColtRange
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We have a million problems here, imagine if that effort was dedicated to fixing our crumbling infrastructure or crime in our cities.
You wouldn't support any of those efforts, let's be real. You say this as a point of opposition for US spending on the Ukraine, even though much of it is just accounting. You don't actually want domestic spending on infrastructure. There are plenty of areas where the US could spend, from mental health to infrastructure to the homeless to veterans, that I'm absolutely sure you would be against once an actual bill would be put on the floor. It'd be better if you just were plain with what you mean rather than pretend this is what you actually believe.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 12:09 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Another great example of the US military meddling and an outstanding outcome...
The Russians should have definitely learned from that exercise, but it appears they didn't.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 12:11 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Looking back we did go in there under false pretenses.
But you could at least offer a simple "thank you" for me and my fellow brothers -in-arms who put our lives on the line.
But you could at least offer a simple "thank you" for me and my fellow brothers -in-arms who put our lives on the line.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 12:13 pm to Philzilla
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You sound insane.
I'm totally sane.
And yeah, I went overboard saying that but I was trying to make a point.
You can be against our involvement in Ukraine w/o openly supporting Russia. The two aren't mutually exclusive.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 12:14 pm to crazy4lsu
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There are plenty of areas where the US could spend, from mental health to infrastructure to the homeless to veterans, that I'm absolutely sure you would be against once an actual bill would be put on the floor.
Show me one that actually focuses on these things and isn't full of unrelated garbage.
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You wouldn't support any of those efforts, let's be real.
Considering my business is in utility infrastructure, you couldn't be more wrong. I was just in St. Louis last week and they had 20+ water main breaks in a span of 4 days, now they are going to raise water rates by 40% in 2024...that's not important though, defeating Russia is paramount.
Posted on 7/7/23 at 12:19 pm to ColtRange
Ukraine war is bad. A total waste of human lives. Should not be funded by us. Nato should not be offered to Ukraine
Posted on 7/7/23 at 12:19 pm to ColtRange
Didn't the 7.1 TRILLION of spending the Biden administration passed in the last 2.5 years provide enough for domestic issues, or are you saying the $20B we've given Ukraine is the missing piece?
ETA: The $20B number is an estimate from memory, but I think its in the ballpark +/- a few billion.
ETA: The $20B number is an estimate from memory, but I think its in the ballpark +/- a few billion.
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