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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/17/23 at 8:38 pm to
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 5/17/23 at 8:38 pm to
Isw update

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Key Takeaways

Russian and Ukrainian officials acknowledged continued limited Ukrainian counterattacks near Bakhmut on May 17.

Ukrainian officials reported that terrain features constrain Ukrainian offensive operations across the Dnipro River in Kherson Oblast.

US officials reported that a Patriot air defense system is operational after Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) claimed that Russian missile strikes on Kyiv destroyed the system on May 16.

The Kremlin reportedly accused three hypersonic missile scientists of treason.

Select Russian strongmen (siloviki) are likely attempting to signal to Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin that he must cease his political ambitions in Russia.

The Russian siloviki may be intimidating Russian officials affiliated with Prigozhin to discourage their cooperation with Wagner but appear to be unsuccessful in their attempts to scare Prigozhin into obedience.

Russian authorities continue to crack down against domestic anti-war dissent in an effort to strengthen domestic repressions and prepare Russian society for a long-term war effort.

Russian authorities are likely forcefully integrating Ukrainian Orthodox Church (UOC) dioceses in occupied Zaporizhia Oblast as part of a wider religious persecution campaign in occupied Ukraine.

Russian forces conducted limited ground attacks northeast of Kupyansk and along the Svatove-Kreminna line.

Russian forces continued to make incremental gains in Bakhmut and conducted limited ground attacks on the Avdiivka-Donetsk City line.

Russian forces continued to target west (right) bank Kherson Oblast and islands at the Dnipro River delta out of fear of planned Ukrainian counteroffensives.

The Kremlin continues crypto-mobilization efforts by recruiting regional volunteer battalions and criminals.

The Russian State Duma adopted amendments to the martial law on May 16 that authorize the forced and controlled movement of citizens from territories under the martial law to the territories without marital law.

Russian ultranationalists are speculating about the fate of Belarus’ independence in case of Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko’s severe illness or death.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
18018 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 9:02 pm to
Trial documents for Jack Teixeira can be found here: LINK

What a total clown show. How in the world is this possible? A bunch of people need to lose their jobs for this.







It's like a security guard writing memos like: "I observed the bank robber enter the bank. I advised the robber that he should not try to rob the bank, and I then left the bank."

Is there any possible reaction to this other than WTF?
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
18018 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 9:06 pm to
What a pathetic joke our military security is. I'm sorry to say it, but this is just appalling.

But hey, at least he completed the annual online training course!

This post was edited on 5/17/23 at 9:07 pm
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
1506 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 11:56 pm to
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What a pathetic joke our military security is.
And has been for a very long time. The below case was in 1985. Walker's toothpaste comment was accurate then and it seems that it still is.
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... convicted Navy spy John Walker, who is serving a life sentence for running an espionage operation for at least 17 years- “K Mart protects their toothpaste better than the Navy protects their top secrets,” Walker gloated in a television interview. As an example of lax military security. Walker told how he gave himself a security update by using a rubber stamp that he had made up in a local store.
LINK
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
1506 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 12:41 am to
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Select Russian strongmen (siloviki) are likely attempting to signal to Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin that he must cease his political ambitions in Russia. The Russian siloviki may be intimidating Russian officials affiliated with Prigozhin to discourage their cooperation with Wagner but appear to be unsuccessful in their attempts to scare Prigozhin into obedience.
This is shaping up nicely. Prigozhin's nine years in a Russian prison taught him the mathematics of reality - how many experienced troops do these silovaki have…? Answer: Not enough.

Prigozhin is safe where he is and won’t be going back to Russia until he goes back with a very large contingent of Wagner forces. But he doesn’t have to, his daily rants are winning the information war. When he does go back, he has enough trusted contacts within the FSB to help with security and no one will be able to match his level of muscle. The first thing he will go after will be the arms depots. That will be our first indication that the Age of the Condottieri has arrived in Moscow. That and the car bombs.

And we laugh when people call Russia a feudal State.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25907 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 1:19 am to
Do these chucklefricks actually believe the words that come out of their mouths?

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Russian Chechen Republic leader Ramzan Kadyrov asserted the superiority of upgraded Russian T-72 main battle tanks (MBT) to the US M1 Abrams on Tuesday, after a Monday announcement that Ukrainian soldiers were to soon train on the American MBT.

Kadyrov said that the Abrams was like a children's pedal car, and that the improved version of the T-72 was "real power."

The T-72 "surpasses foreign equipment in combat power, control, protection and ease of use. With it, any attack is like fishing on a yacht – a pleasure!" Kadyrov wrote on Telegram, alongside a video of him riding in the armored vehicle's turret.

"On such a tank we will enter Kyiv and carry out denazification, simultaneously splitting the Abrams like nuts! "


Jerusalem Post
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
49138 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 1:36 am to
quote:

It's like a security guard writing memos like: "I observed the bank robber enter the bank. I advised the robber that he should not try to rob the bank, and I then left the bank."

Is there any possible reaction to this other than WTF?




Exactly
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
2621 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 4:03 am to
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 18 May 2023

The Russian state is likely effectively banning senior officials from resigning from their jobs while the 'Special Military Operation' continues. The measures likely extend to at least regional leaders, security officials and members of the powerful Presidential Administration.

In private, many officials are likely highly sceptical about the war, as well as often experiencing work stress within the dysfunctional wartime apparatus. The ban is likely enforced with strong hints that resignees will face trumped up criminal charges.

As well as being concerned about capability gaps resignees would leave, the authorities are likely also attempting to prevent any impression of defeatism, and to bolster a sense of collective responsibility for the war.
This post was edited on 5/18/23 at 4:03 am
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
25907 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 4:36 am to
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Do these chucklefricks actually believe the words that come out of their mouths?


Now Armchair Edgelord is joining the party with the T-62:

Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
22468 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 7:27 am to
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Russian Chechen Republic leader Ramzan Kadyrov asserted the superiority of upgraded Russian T-72 main battle tanks (MBT) to the US M1 Abrams on Tuesday, after a Monday announcement that Ukrainian soldiers were to soon train on the American MBT.





Kadyrov always seems strung out on dope. He is a weird specimen.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9683 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 7:29 am to
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Kadyrov always seems strung out on dope. He is a weird specimen.


As dictator of the goat and donkey sex capitol of Russia, it should be a given.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35487 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:24 am to
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What a total clown show. How in the world is this possible? A bunch of people need to lose their jobs for this.
Not only that, but once they had wind of the leak it should have taken them 5 minutes to haul him in. As it was it was about a month, no?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:27 am to
You guys have way too much confidence in the USG. It’s full of some of the most incompetent and apathetic people in the country.

And no one will lose their jobs over this.
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:34 am to
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You guys have way too much confidence in the USG. It’s full of some of the most incompetent and apathetic people in the country.

Any system with human oversight will have holes. People are fallible. The goal is to be better than the competition.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9683 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 8:35 am to
USG is full of professional memo writers.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64908 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 9:17 am to
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Kadyrov said that the Abrams was like a children's pedal car, and that the improved version of the T-72 was "real power."


He should ask the Iraqi Republican Guard tankers how well the T-72 does against the Abrams. But I don’t think we left many of them alive to testify.


Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
18018 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 9:47 am to
Politico:

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Colin Kahl, the Pentagon’s top policy official who was narrowly confirmed by the Senate after a tough confirmation battle two years ago, will leave his post in July, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin announced on Wednesday.

Kahl is returning to his position as a tenured professor at Stanford University, according to a Defense Department official familiar with Kahl’s plans, who was granted anonymity to discuss details of the move.

When he took the job as DoD’s undersecretary for policy in 2021, the agreement with Stanford was to take a two-year leave of absence, which would end this spring. Kahl asked to extend his leave until mid-July so he could support President Joe Biden and Austin in the lead-up to the NATO leaders summit in Vilnius, according to the official.


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Kahl has also been one of the administration’s top officials making the case against sending U.S.-made F-16 jets to Ukraine, which has been a point of contention between the Biden administration and lawmakers, both Democrats and Republicans.

Despite a plea from Kyiv for more advanced jets, Kahl has argued sending F-16s would take years and cost billions of dollars, while noting fighters aren’t Ukraine’s most immediate need.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
4336 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 9:54 am to
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Prigozhin is safe where he is


This fact is surprising to me. It seems he really is in and around the front on occasion, and I have to assume the US has had decent intel in his location at least once.

The fact he hasn’t yet been soleimani’d by a Ukrainian drone directed by US intel kind of makes me think there could be legs to reports of him offering information on Russia to Ukraine.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
3749 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 10:03 am to
Ukraine, China Meeting Shows No Breakthrough to End Russian Invasion (WSJ Paywall)

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Ukrainian foreign minister tells Chinese envoy Kyiv can’t accept any proposals that mean losing territory to Russia


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A meeting in Kyiv between Ukraine’s foreign minister and a Chinese envoy brought no sign of a breakthrough for Beijing’s most concrete effort yet to insert itself into diplomacy aimed at ending the war.

During the meeting with Li Hui, China’s special representative for Eurasian affairs, Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba “emphasized that Ukraine does not accept any proposals that would involve the loss of its territories or the freezing of the conflict,” his ministry said.

China’s Foreign Ministry said that Li, who also met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and his chief of staff, Andriy Yermak, presented Beijing’s position on a political settlement. Li told the Ukrainian officials that there was no cure-all to stop the fighting, but all parties needed to build mutual trust to create conditions for talks. China planned to continue its own efforts to restore peace as soon as possible, Li added.

Li’s weeklong trip around European capitals taking in Ukraine and Russia, as well as Poland, France and Germany, follows an April call between Zelensky and Chinese leader Xi Jinping.

Zelensky said he told Xi during the call that he was counting on China not to supply Moscow with arms or other technologies, and Xi reassured him that China wasn’t providing arms to Russia.

More than a year into a war that is estimated to have already killed or wounded more than 300,000 people, China hasn’t acknowledged that Russia invaded Ukraine and generally avoids referring to the fighting as constituting a war, in line with Moscow’s euphemisms over its invasion. Instead, Beijing has heaped criticism on Washington and its allies for supplying arms to Kyiv, while echoing many of Moscow’s public positions.


Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 10:20 am to
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What a pathetic joke our military security is


Calm down. There are about a million and a half people in uniform and all of them have some type of clearance dependent on their MOS.

Is this egregious? Absolutely. But the vast majority of high clearance holders are trustworthy and take great pride in their job/work.

My concern with this case specifically is not so much what he did but how did he get that clearance with the evidence of instability that was out there.
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