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re: Does WW teach his players how to block out?
Posted on 2/9/22 at 10:23 am to WisconsinTiger85
Posted on 2/9/22 at 10:23 am to WisconsinTiger85
quote:well, we did give up 19 offensive rebounds last night, so the OP has identified a legitimate issue.
God you people are insufferable….
Posted on 2/9/22 at 10:25 am to atltiger6487
quote:
well, we did give up 19 offensive rebounds last night, so the OP has identified a legitimate issue.
No. A legit issue would be, "we aren't very good at blocking out and need a lot of work on it".
Not, "does a D1 coach even teach it".
This may come as a shock to people, but, not everything a coach teaches gets done well. Hell, sometimes, the other team is just better in an area. Otherwise, every team in college basketball would be exceptional at rebounding.
Posted on 2/9/22 at 10:40 am to atltiger6487
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well, we did give up 19 offensive rebounds last night, so the OP has identified a legitimate issue.
I assure you Wade will be all over that in film sessions today but since Wade has been at LSU rebounding has been a strength. This guy jumping the gun and acting like LSU doesn't practice it shows he rarely watches games and/or isn't very basketball smart.
Posted on 2/9/22 at 11:29 am to Geauxing for 3
quote:
The general invented the faceup boxout. Put
This is pretty maddening. I get that a 6’ guard will struggle to box out a 6’8” forward, but turning your back to the basketball is not the way to get rebounds.
Posted on 2/9/22 at 11:40 am to ManyTiger
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This is pretty maddening. I get that a 6’ guard will struggle to box out a 6’8” forward, but turning your back to the basketball is not the way to get rebounds
In this case, its not about getting rebounds, its about making sure your guy doesnt get the rebound so one of your teammates can get the rebound. Wade has talked about it.
Posted on 2/9/22 at 11:41 am to Yeahright
LSU is fourth in the SEC in rebounding, which is not too shabby.
NAME REB RPG OR ORPG DR DRPG
1. Kentucky 989 41.2 306 12.8 683 28.5
2. Auburn 974 40.6 309 12.9 665 27.7
3. Alabama 924 40.2 315 13.7 609 26.5
4. LSU 933 38.9 296 12.3 637 26.5
NAME REB RPG OR ORPG DR DRPG
1. Kentucky 989 41.2 306 12.8 683 28.5
2. Auburn 974 40.6 309 12.9 665 27.7
3. Alabama 924 40.2 315 13.7 609 26.5
4. LSU 933 38.9 296 12.3 637 26.5
Posted on 2/9/22 at 11:43 am to LSUtoBOOT
Bear in mind also that AU and UK have essentially the two best big men in the country.
Posted on 2/9/22 at 2:49 pm to ShortyRob
quote:I'll partially agree with this. A coach can't teach a bad 3-point shooter to be a good one. Of course a player can improve with good teaching about mechanics, but a coach can't get blood from a turnip.
This may come as a shock to people, but, not everything a coach teaches gets done well.
However, the old adage is true: "you get what you demand."
And rebounding doesn't take much skill - it's mostly about effort, along with some block out techniques.
So if a coach demands that his team rebound, they'll rebound well.
Posted on 2/11/22 at 11:25 pm to rutiger
aTm is a bad team. They aren't even close in talent on a man by man basis to the TIgers. That game should have been a 15 pt win instead of being close.
Posted on 2/11/22 at 11:28 pm to LongTime Tiger
quote:Pretty hilarious you bring this up because Wade literally said today at his presser that not all players are instructed to follow their shots but instead get back on defense. But I’m sure since you’re posting on TD you know better than him.
And I guess it isn't cool anymore to "follow your shot" unless you play for aTm,
This post was edited on 2/11/22 at 11:28 pm
Posted on 2/11/22 at 11:39 pm to LongTime Tiger
It wasn’t close, ATM never led and never had a chance to get within a score once we pushed the lead to 20.
This post was edited on 2/11/22 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 2/18/22 at 4:46 am to jimbeam
I heard the presser and I don't think he was speaking about following your shot(normally only 2-3 steps toward the goal after shooting). I thought he said
I actually understand the concept and have played and coached it. Either 3 or 4 go to the rim for offensive rebounds while 1-2 get back to play defense and prevent a fast break. Very fundamental basketball.
But even when it is taught, some obviously don't work as hard as they could to get offensive rebounds. IN spite of the number of rebounds we get per game, we probably miss another 7-10 because we often shoot and no one makes a dash toward the goal.
I actually understand the concept and have played and coached it. Either 3 or 4 go to the rim for offensive rebounds while 1-2 get back to play defense and prevent a fast break. Very fundamental basketball.
But even when it is taught, some obviously don't work as hard as they could to get offensive rebounds. IN spite of the number of rebounds we get per game, we probably miss another 7-10 because we often shoot and no one makes a dash toward the goal.
Posted on 2/18/22 at 5:44 am to Yeahright
No, they only practice recovering fumbles.
Posted on 2/18/22 at 9:23 am to Yeahright
Honestly where do you people come from? Honestly just STFU and post less.
Posted on 2/18/22 at 9:27 am to Yeahright
Nope.
He wants em all blocking out.
That, the two hand chest pass, and the set shot dominate practice time
He wants em all blocking out.
That, the two hand chest pass, and the set shot dominate practice time
Posted on 2/18/22 at 9:37 am to LongTime Tiger
You said this
The reporter asked this
So mark me down as confused by you saying
quote:
And I guess it isn't cool anymore to "follow your shot" unless you play for aTm,
The reporter asked this
quote:and Will said
You know when I grew up it was always “follow your shot” Is that not a thing anymore?
quote:
Depends on who shoots.
So mark me down as confused by you saying
quote:
I heard the presser and I don't think he was speaking about following your shot
Posted on 2/18/22 at 10:11 am to LongTime Tiger
Wade's LSU teams have never been very good on the defensive glass. In fact, the 18-19 team that won the SEC was a horrible defensive rebounding team. However, Wade's teams have always been very good offensive rebounding teams. This year is no exception as LSU is 17th nationally in offensive rebounding %. And as crazy as it might sound, this years team is MUCH better on the defensive glass than last year's team.
So I don't think it is an issue of not "teaching how to block out" as much as it is a philosophy choice. LSU wants to get out and run in transition off missed baskets. So they don't always send 4 guys to the defensive glass. And this year teams are taking a ton of 3's vs. LSU. That usually leads to long rebounds on missed shots which often makes it easier to grab offensive rebounds.
LSU has shown the ability to hold their own on the defensive glass when they make it a top priority given the opponents. Kentucky is one of the best offensive rebounding teams in the country. LSU sent 4 guys to the glass in that game. The result was the rebounding battle was pretty even. In fact, LSU was slightly better. TCU is the best offensive rebounding team in the nation. Still, LSU was able to keep them below their average in offensive rebound %. (It was the defensive glass where TCU really pummeled LSU)
Giving up second chance points is frustrating. But just know, LSU gets their share of second chance points as well and rarely do they get dominated in that stat.
So I don't think it is an issue of not "teaching how to block out" as much as it is a philosophy choice. LSU wants to get out and run in transition off missed baskets. So they don't always send 4 guys to the defensive glass. And this year teams are taking a ton of 3's vs. LSU. That usually leads to long rebounds on missed shots which often makes it easier to grab offensive rebounds.
LSU has shown the ability to hold their own on the defensive glass when they make it a top priority given the opponents. Kentucky is one of the best offensive rebounding teams in the country. LSU sent 4 guys to the glass in that game. The result was the rebounding battle was pretty even. In fact, LSU was slightly better. TCU is the best offensive rebounding team in the nation. Still, LSU was able to keep them below their average in offensive rebound %. (It was the defensive glass where TCU really pummeled LSU)
Giving up second chance points is frustrating. But just know, LSU gets their share of second chance points as well and rarely do they get dominated in that stat.
Posted on 2/18/22 at 10:16 am to Alt26
quote:Thank you. I have pointed this out before on here. The triple switch leads to a ton of opponent 3 point volume which leads to long rebounds as mentioned.
That usually leads to long rebounds on missed shots which often makes it easier to grab offensive rebounds.
Posted on 2/18/22 at 10:23 am to Yeahright
quote:
Answer the question. It's either "yes" he teaches them and they aren't listening or "no" and he sucks as a coach.
If you would listen to his Press Conference, he explains that.
He does stress blocking out, but sometimes the offense leaves players out of position to rebound. In addition many of his players are young.
If he "sucks as coach" how do you explain his consistent winning at every place he has coached?
Posted on 2/18/22 at 1:20 pm to Yeahright
No b/c the rantards think fundamentals is a waste of time.. just play defense and everything will be fine
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