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Who actually spreads dangerous and deadly COVID misinformation?
Posted on 2/1/22 at 11:18 am
Posted on 2/1/22 at 11:18 am
Judge for yourself:
“Now we know that the vaccines work well enough that the virus stops with every vaccinated person. A vaccinated person gets exposed to the virus, the virus does not infect them, the virus cannot then use that person to go anywhere else. It cannot use a vaccinated person as a host to go get more people. That means, the vaccines will get us to the end of this if we just go fast enough.”
~Rachel Maddow
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“Imperfect vaccination can enhance the transmission of highly virulent pathogens. Vaccines that keep the host alive, but still allow transmission, can thus allow virulent strains to circulate in a population. So, vaccines that don’t kill the virus, vaccines that allow people, like this is what we’re finding out about what they’re calling breakthrough cases, so people who are vaccinated can still get COVID, and they can still transmit COVID…that situation where the vaccine kind of protects you from serious damage, but it protects you from like really being badly hospitalized or death, but doesn’t stop you from getting the virus can possibly lead to more potent viruses.”
~Joe Rogan
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“Now we know that the vaccines work well enough that the virus stops with every vaccinated person. A vaccinated person gets exposed to the virus, the virus does not infect them, the virus cannot then use that person to go anywhere else. It cannot use a vaccinated person as a host to go get more people. That means, the vaccines will get us to the end of this if we just go fast enough.”
~Rachel Maddow
LINK
“Imperfect vaccination can enhance the transmission of highly virulent pathogens. Vaccines that keep the host alive, but still allow transmission, can thus allow virulent strains to circulate in a population. So, vaccines that don’t kill the virus, vaccines that allow people, like this is what we’re finding out about what they’re calling breakthrough cases, so people who are vaccinated can still get COVID, and they can still transmit COVID…that situation where the vaccine kind of protects you from serious damage, but it protects you from like really being badly hospitalized or death, but doesn’t stop you from getting the virus can possibly lead to more potent viruses.”
~Joe Rogan
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Posted on 2/1/22 at 11:20 am to tommy2tone1999
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“Now we know that the vaccines work well enough that the virus stops with every vaccinated person. A vaccinated person gets exposed to the virus, the virus does not infect them, the virus cannot then use that person to go anywhere else. It cannot use a vaccinated person as a host to go get more people. That means, the vaccines will get us to the end of this if we just go fast enough.”
~Rachel Maddow
I hate you for making me read that in the disguising holeyer than thou voice of that ignorant dude
Posted on 2/1/22 at 11:20 am to tommy2tone1999
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Who actually spreads dangerous and deadly COVID misinformation?
Our media, political leader and “experts”
Posted on 2/1/22 at 11:20 am to tommy2tone1999
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Who actually spreads dangerous and deadly COVID misinformation?
The CDC.
Posted on 2/1/22 at 11:22 am to tommy2tone1999
I hate it for the people who have actually developed new medical conditions as a result of the shots. It's taking a chance, and if someone is unfortunate enough to develop a new health issue or die as a result of the shots, the so-called pro-science crowd doesn't want to talk about it. Those with new illnesses as a result deserve to have a voice on this issue as well. Silencing that is suppressing free speech.
Posted on 2/1/22 at 12:05 pm to tommy2tone1999
The new strains have come from highly unvaccinated countries. Delta came from India, for example.
The vaccine has been shown to reduce household transmission and they've shown over and over again that vaccinated people are less likely to contract covid. Recent statistics have the number at 10X less likely. Can they catch it? Of course. But they are less likely to do so by several orders of magnitude.
And furthermore, people who've caught Covid and have antibodies from a wild infection, can catch and transmit covid again, but just like vaccinated people, they're less likely to do so, and if/when they do, their symptoms not as strong.
That said, if Joe Rogan's talking point were correct for vaccinated people, then it would also apply to people who've caught covid and have antibodies from a prior infection.
The vaccine has been shown to reduce household transmission and they've shown over and over again that vaccinated people are less likely to contract covid. Recent statistics have the number at 10X less likely. Can they catch it? Of course. But they are less likely to do so by several orders of magnitude.
And furthermore, people who've caught Covid and have antibodies from a wild infection, can catch and transmit covid again, but just like vaccinated people, they're less likely to do so, and if/when they do, their symptoms not as strong.
That said, if Joe Rogan's talking point were correct for vaccinated people, then it would also apply to people who've caught covid and have antibodies from a prior infection.
Posted on 2/1/22 at 12:22 pm to ChipDiamond
None of that is true anymore. Omicron doesn’t give a shite about anything, but it doesn’t matter because it’s a cold at it’s worst
Posted on 2/1/22 at 12:24 pm to tommy2tone1999
who gets to define what information is 'dangerous'?
Posted on 2/1/22 at 12:27 pm to ChipDiamond
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The vaccine has been shown to reduce household transmission and they've shown over and over again that vaccinated people are less likely to contract covid.
Didn't the CDC come out an retract that statement for the latest variant? And, logically speaking, if the virus evolves to a point that the vaccine is ineffective against it, wouldn't that mean that it most likely evolved from a vaccinated host? If not, how did it "learn" to evolve to the point to essentially make the vaccine worthless against it?
Posted on 2/1/22 at 12:32 pm to ChipDiamond
Source of Joe Rogan's statement.
Imperfect Vaccination Can Enhance the Transmission of Highly Virulent Pathogens, 2015.
It stands to reason that if you reduce that likelihood of transmission by vaccination, then only the most virulent strains will actually be transmitted, and this will create another outbreak as it spreads from person to person vaccinated or not. Rogan says in his podcast that he was not arguing for nor against vaccines, this is simply information from a scientific study.
Not so much...
Community transmission and viral load kinetics of the SARS-CoV-2 delta (B.1.617.2) variant in vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals in the UK: a prospective, longitudinal, cohort study
Rogan was not incorrect. Rachael Maddow however was, and so are you.
Imperfect Vaccination Can Enhance the Transmission of Highly Virulent Pathogens, 2015.
It stands to reason that if you reduce that likelihood of transmission by vaccination, then only the most virulent strains will actually be transmitted, and this will create another outbreak as it spreads from person to person vaccinated or not. Rogan says in his podcast that he was not arguing for nor against vaccines, this is simply information from a scientific study.
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The vaccine has been shown to reduce household transmission and they've shown over and over again that vaccinated people are less likely to contract covid.
Not so much...
Community transmission and viral load kinetics of the SARS-CoV-2 delta (B.1.617.2) variant in vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals in the UK: a prospective, longitudinal, cohort study
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Vaccination reduces the risk of delta variant infection and accelerates viral clearance. Nonetheless, fully vaccinated individuals with breakthrough infections have peak viral load similar to unvaccinated cases and can efficiently transmit infection in household settings, including to fully vaccinated contacts
Rogan was not incorrect. Rachael Maddow however was, and so are you.
This post was edited on 2/1/22 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 2/1/22 at 12:33 pm to Weekend Warrior79
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The CDC.
My first thought.
Then I heard Glenn Beck describing his experience with the horse dewormer and his Doctor's prescriptions during Omnicom.....
(Joking). He had this urge to run in a giant circle on all fours. while carrying one of the kids on his back, dressed in bright color silk pajamas.
Posted on 2/1/22 at 2:39 pm to tommy2tone1999
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It stands to reason that if you reduce that likelihood of transmission by vaccination, then only the most virulent strains will actually be transmitted, and this will create another outbreak as it spreads from person to person vaccinated or not. Rogan says in his podcast that he was not arguing for nor against vaccines, this is simply information from a scientific study.
So you're arguing against all vaccines, then?
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Vaccination reduces the risk of delta variant infection and accelerates viral clearance. Nonetheless, fully vaccinated individuals with breakthrough infections have peak viral load similar to unvaccinated cases and can efficiently transmit infection in household settings, including to fully vaccinated contacts
My claim was that vaccination reduces transmission. What's it say right there in bold?
Posted on 2/1/22 at 3:45 pm to ChipDiamond
Your claim was that Rogan was incorrect, he was not.
Also,
In other words, the risk is not reduced enough to prevent household infections. Are you one of those Facebook "factfinders"?
Also,
quote:
Vaccination reduces the risk of delta variant infection and accelerates viral clearance. Nonetheless, fully vaccinated individuals with breakthrough infections have peak viral load similar to unvaccinated cases and can efficiently transmit infection in household settings, including to fully vaccinated contacts
In other words, the risk is not reduced enough to prevent household infections. Are you one of those Facebook "factfinders"?
This post was edited on 2/1/22 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 2/1/22 at 3:48 pm to ChipDiamond
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Recent statistics have the number at 10X less likely.
No, it’s not.
Posted on 2/1/22 at 3:52 pm to tommy2tone1999
I don't care that she slurps slit, or that Don and Anderson chug choad..
But, I do care that such proclivities seemingly predispositions them to Leftist wrongthink.
Dave Rubin, Glenn Greenswald, Andy Ngo,etc..do their thing, while still being able to think properly..
Albeit, some are reformed retards too.
But, I do care that such proclivities seemingly predispositions them to Leftist wrongthink.
Dave Rubin, Glenn Greenswald, Andy Ngo,etc..do their thing, while still being able to think properly..
Albeit, some are reformed retards too.
Posted on 2/1/22 at 3:54 pm to ChipDiamond
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they've shown over and over again that vaccinated people are less likely to contract covid
No they have not.
STFU.
Posted on 2/1/22 at 3:55 pm to the808bass
You can't argue reason with unreasonable people.
Posted on 2/1/22 at 3:55 pm to tommy2tone1999
Maddow was wrong. When the vaccines first came out it was said Moderna was 90% effective and Phizer a little more effective. It was never said to be 100% effective. Since then I believe those numbers dropped.
Posted on 2/1/22 at 3:56 pm to ChipDiamond
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So you're arguing against all vaccines, then?
Calling the Pfizer, Moderna and J&J shots vaccines is a slap in the face to real vaccines.
Posted on 2/1/22 at 3:56 pm to tommy2tone1999
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Who actually spreads dangerous and deadly COVID misinformation?
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