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re: Russia invading Ukraine may be imminent
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:07 pm to REG861
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:07 pm to REG861
You made the claim Yanukovych wasn't a democratically elected leader while Tymoshenko was. You were either misinformed or a liar. Her treatment subsequent to her Presidential run is completely irrelevant to the question of whether or not Yanukovych was democratically elected.
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Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:10 pm to Decatur
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American diplomats discussing their opinions and preferences on the phone isn't a coup.
Imagine there's a coup in Mexico next month and we find intelligence that Russian leaders were discussing who would succeed the ousted President months beforehand. You'd be on here skyscreaming about Russian aggression and KGB infiltration.
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:11 pm to bikerack
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So...if you start hearing about cyber attacks in Ukraine and data being lost, I would think an invasion would be imminent.
The WhisperGate malware is already doing this.
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Russia is also pissed about Sweden possibly joining NATO. Over the weekend, drones were seen flying around nuclear and other government installations.
I heard about the drones but didn't see much in the way of details. But gee Russia is afraid Sweden may want to join NATO? Wonder why?
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:13 pm to SCLibertarian
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Lol. The guy we backed to succeed Yanukovych won less than 25% of the vote in the latest Presidential election and that's considering the most pro-Yanukovych areas no longer vote in Ukrainian elections. He was our puppet and the Ukrainian people despised him (rightfully so).
Poroshenko (Yaku's successor you're referring to) won his first election handily. It was his reelection when he got his arse kicked. If the US was supporting him, that was your boy Trump who made that choice. Poroshenko currently has charges of treason waiting for him when he gets back to the Ukraine (for working with Russians on fricked up energy deals). Supposedly he's returning this week.
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:14 pm to LSUneaux
This was on the poli board like 3 days ago. TD > WH intel
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:15 pm to SCLibertarian
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Imagine there's a coup in Mexico next month and we find intelligence that Russian leaders were discussing who would succeed the ousted President months beforehand. You'd be on here skyscreaming about Russian aggression and KGB infiltration.
Imagine our elected officials were already over there on highly publicized diplomatic efforts doing the same thing. That's not a coup.
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:16 pm to Decatur
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I heard about the drones but didn't see much in the way of details. But gee Russia is afraid Sweden may want to join NATO? Wonder why?
Sweden and Finland have been deferring to Russia and staying neutral.
Russia doesn’t want them to pick the side of NATO.
There’s more to it but that’s it in its simplest terms.
Sweden has been sending troops to strategic areas (Gotland for example) because so they don’t get caught off guard if Russia attacks.
This post was edited on 1/18/22 at 10:26 pm
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:17 pm to mmmmmbeeer
Neither Crimea nor the bulk of the Donbas region voted in 2014. The Party of Regions didn't even field a candidate.
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:20 pm to SCLibertarian
Imagine there's a coup in Mexico next month and we find intelligence that Russian leaders were discussing who would succeed the ousted President months beforehand.
This is actually possible with President numb nuts at the helm. It should be a wake up call for all Americans. Although Russia would a much better job at cleaning up the scum of Mexico than we have since 1847
This is actually possible with President numb nuts at the helm. It should be a wake up call for all Americans. Although Russia would a much better job at cleaning up the scum of Mexico than we have since 1847
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:24 pm to LSUneaux
False flag the media says. I think the cabal wants war to cover and bring in the great reset. Any opinions?
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:28 pm to Sneauxghost
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I think the cabal wants war
The American people love war. What percentage of this country supported the Iraq War and the War on Terror? If this was a just country the entire Bush administration would be in prison. War makes politicians rich and the people less free.
Posted on 1/18/22 at 10:46 pm to REG861
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SCL pretends to be some principled libertarian but literally just regurgitates a bunch of Q thread talking points.
This has nothing to do with Q and more to do with Stephen Cohen, an NYU and Princeton Professor who was essentially blackballed by the leftist media for criticizing the Obama administration's role in the Ukraine crisis. His writings are what have influenced my take on this conflict. And before you smear him as a right-wing conspiracy theorist, his wife, Katrina Vanden Heuvel, is a part owner and former editor of The Nation, hardly a right-wing rag. But go ahead and continue with the ad hominem.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:14 am to Decatur
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That's not a coup.
Did they protest at the capital waiving flags and walking within the tour ropes?
That's how we will know if it was a coup or not.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:15 am to UndercoverBryologist
quote:Yeah, but go look at a map. The only country that physically bordered Russia or the USSR was Afganistan, and that was boarding the former USSR 'Stans, not Russia proper. And even so, it was the mildest reaction of any you listed. We mostly gave them guns via 3rd parties.
It probably bears repeating because starting a new war (or supplying arms to our proxies) is the first, last, and only diplomatic response the United States has had since 1950.
Korea
Cuba
Vietnam
Afghanistan (against the Soviets)
Nicaragua
Panama
Iraq
Kosovo/Bosnia
Afghanistan again
Iraq again
Libya
Yemen
Ukraine is on Russia's border. There's FAR too much risk involved, and a no-win situation. You can't win a pure defensive war, and you don't dare cross the border onto Russian soil. You don't start WW3 for this.
This was the scenario that prevented Ukraine from being voted into NATO in the first place.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 12:44 am to SCLibertarian
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The United States was part of a coup in 2014 that overthrew the democratically elected Yanukovych regime. That sparked a civil war, a Russian invasion and a secession referendum in Crimea. As is usually the case, this heightened conflict can be directly traced to one place: the hallways of Langley, Virginia.
Why would anyone downvote the above? It’s true.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 1:39 am to REG861
quote:holy frick you arent joking
SCL pretends to be some principled libertarian but literally just regurgitates a bunch of Q thread talking points.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 6:04 am to LSUneaux
The Ukraine is weak
Posted on 1/19/22 at 6:08 am to LSUneaux
The Biden’s have a lot of business interest in Ukraine.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 6:09 am to Coach Buzzcut
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MUH Russia - a country that has the GDP of Texas and shite Soviet Era weapons and vehicles.
I remember when the some leaders before a second WW had similar thoughts
Posted on 1/19/22 at 6:12 am to salty1
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Why would anyone downvote the above?
Because they're as propagandized by our media's Western liberal orthodoxies as they claim Russians are by Putin's state media. These people have a religious-like belief in the ability of American bureaucrats and intelligence officials to remake the world in our image, even if a country's history and culture is fundamentally opposite an American-style government.
This post was edited on 1/19/22 at 6:14 am
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