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re: Russia invading Ukraine may be imminent
Posted on 1/19/22 at 7:32 am to mmmmmbeeer
Posted on 1/19/22 at 7:32 am to mmmmmbeeer
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You’re supporting the violent overthrow of free sovereign states
Lol. So does the government you worship for the better part of 80 years.
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Posted on 1/19/22 at 7:36 am to Oilfieldbiology
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Because of I don’t know how many years they have not paid their agreed upon share but instead asked the US too. How many wars has NATO and the UN gotten us into and we have ultimately footed the bill with both blood and coin?
Ending outdated preferential trade agreements and forcing countries to pay their agreed upon mandatory spending percentage of gdp to defense is considered "breaking up NATO" to these lunatics. They look at anyone disrupting the corrupt status quo as the bad guy. That's how indoctrinated these people are.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 7:38 am to mmmmmbeeer
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You’re supporting the violent overthrow of free sovereign states by America’s worst enemy.
Do you remember this little thing called the Arab Spring where we overthrew/attempted to overthrow the governments of almost ever major government of the ME and N Africa all at the same time?
It's so fricking bizarre to watch the left now become the most hawkish group of the last 50 years
Posted on 1/19/22 at 7:42 am to upgrayedd
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It's so fricking bizarre to watch the left now become the most hawkish group of the last 50 years
Decatur and the beer guy probably wax poetic about civil rights and voting rights at their hipster cocktail parties while simultaneously justifying the carpet bombing of people around the world to protect "American credibility". These people are psychopaths.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 7:47 am to SCLibertarian
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Yanukovych literally defeated Yulia Tymoshenko in the Presidential election of 2010 in both the first and second round of ballots. He won by more than 1 million votes.
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Decatur and the beer guy probably wax poetic about civil rights and voting rights at their hipster cocktail parties while simultaneously justifying the carpet bombing of people around the world to protect "American credibility". These people are psychopaths.
Unfortunately, Russian propaganda is common on this particular sub-forum.
This post was edited on 1/19/22 at 7:48 am
Posted on 1/19/22 at 7:47 am to SCLibertarian
The hilarious thing is that these people want to go on excursions all over the globe yet they couldn't even get out of Afghanistan competently.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 7:49 am to TBoy
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TBoy
The muh Russia trifecta is now complete
Posted on 1/19/22 at 7:50 am to upgrayedd
Except that the dude I quoted is actually spouting Russian propaganda.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 7:52 am to LSUneaux
Posted on 1/19/22 at 7:52 am to mmmmmbeeer
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When you find yourself taking Putin’s side over the West, it may be time to reevaluate your loyalties. To just brush off Putin’s shenanigans around the globe, the terror and censorship he places on his own people, his stated goals of retaking, by force, the Eastern Bloc in order to bring the USSR back into being, well, to ignore all that is anathema to me. You’re supporting the violent overthrow of free sovereign states by America’s worst enemy.
SCL probably thinks Tiananmen Square was a CIA psy op to overthrow another “democratically elected” regime. I bet you he won’t answer this question straight up: have the numerous elections that Putin won been fair and free democratic elections ? No whataboutisms please.
This post was edited on 1/19/22 at 7:56 am
Posted on 1/19/22 at 7:54 am to TBoy
Of course it is, champ
Posted on 1/19/22 at 7:57 am to REG861
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I bet you he won’t answer this question straight up: have the numerous elections that Putin won been fair and free democratic elections ?
No. But here's another neocon to the flame. I bet you think they hate us for our freedom right? You were all in on David Frum's Axos of Evil.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 8:02 am to REG861
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bet you he won’t answer this question straight up: have the numerous elections that Putin won been fair and free democratic elections ? No whataboutisms please.
I answered you, now tell me why Putin being an autocrat has anything to do with whether or not the United States should involve itself in the Ukrainian crisis? It doesn't. More emotional handwringing to try and justify further escalating a conflict we have no business in.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 8:03 am to SCLibertarian
Who is “they?” Putins Russia? The guy who called the dissolution of the USSR the biggest geopolitical tragedy of the 20th century ? No I think he hates us because we’re an obstacle to his Eastern Bloc imperialism.
We absolutely should not go to war over Ukraine. But I don’t have a problem with us sending in some material support to people protecting their sovereignty or dropping severe economic sanctions on a dictator. Better than boots on the ground. All out military conflict is the worst possible thing and I wouldn’t support that nato or not.
We absolutely should not go to war over Ukraine. But I don’t have a problem with us sending in some material support to people protecting their sovereignty or dropping severe economic sanctions on a dictator. Better than boots on the ground. All out military conflict is the worst possible thing and I wouldn’t support that nato or not.
This post was edited on 1/19/22 at 8:07 am
Posted on 1/19/22 at 8:04 am to SCLibertarian
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I answered you, now tell me why Putin being an autocrat has anything to do with whether or not the United States should involve itself in the Ukrainian crisis?
In your opinion, at what point should the US step in, via proxy, to assist other Western nations via training, weapons, supplies?
Posted on 1/19/22 at 8:06 am to waiting4saturday
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Sounds like Europes problem.
This phrase was used a lot in America when a guy named Adolph started fricking with neighbors in 1939.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 8:07 am to Geekboy
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This phrase was used a lot in America when a guy named Adolph started fricking with neighbors in 1939.
Your profile pic is absolutely fitting
Posted on 1/19/22 at 8:07 am to REG861
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But I don’t have a problem with us sending in material support to people protecting their sovereignty or dropping severe economic sanctions on a dictator.
I honestly don't doubt your sincerity to help them. I don't trust the people in Washington to do this effectively (if it even can be done effectively) or to simply stop at providing material support. I look at Syria as an example. The alternative to Assad is worse than Assad. The right-wing bloc in Ukraine look exactly like the kind of people Tboy and Decatur fearmonger over.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 8:08 am to mmmmmbeeer
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at what point should the US step in, via proxy, to assist other Western nations via training, weapons, supplies?
When we aren't $30 trillion in debt.
Posted on 1/19/22 at 8:10 am to LSUneaux
What is the MIC’s goal with this one? To up their budget to $1 trillion next year? Or to just try and kickstart the flagging economy with another imperialist Nation Building exercise?
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