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Free Trey Murphy
Posted on 1/15/22 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 1/15/22 at 8:55 pm
It makes no sense to me to have a first-round pick wallowing on the bench in a lost season. He’s an older rookie, so it is crazy to not let him play and develop. Give him Temple’s minutes.
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Posted on 1/15/22 at 9:02 pm to Mulkey Man
Willie has no problem playing young guys who earn it and show they deserve the minutes. That’s absolutely an indictment on Trey just like it was Jaxson for a while.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 9:31 pm to Mulkey Man
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Free Trey Murphy
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Give him Temple’s minutes.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 10:05 pm to TotesMcGotes
quote:Has Trey really been given a shot?
Willie has no problem playing young guys who earn it and show they deserve the minutes. That’s absolutely an indictment on Trey just like it was Jaxson for a while.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 10:07 pm to Mulkey Man
I didn’t realize being 1.5 games out of the play in meant it’s a lost season.
Posted on 1/15/22 at 10:12 pm to BigBrod81
They should send him to Birmingham for the remainder of the season (or until they decide to tank). His play has not merited playing time over the players who are currently playing which says a lot because there are so many deficiencies in the team's personnel. He mustn't be showing well in the team's practices against that 'checkered' personnel.
SHOOTERS GOTTA' SHOOT AND HE AIN'T DOING THAT ON THE BENCH.
SHOOTERS GOTTA' SHOOT AND HE AIN'T DOING THAT ON THE BENCH.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 1:12 am to Bonkers119
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I didn’t realize being 1.5 games out of the play in meant it’s a lost season.
The play-in game is fool’s gold. If you are trying to build an actual contender, you let the young guys play.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 5:16 am to Mulkey Man
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If you are trying to build an actual contender, you let the young guys play.
There is a lot of damage that can be done to a young player by trying to accelerate their development. Especially if they are not physically ready. The edge that Murphy had in college, oversized wing with a great set shot, hasn't translated to the league. I don't think that it will either. So he might have to reinvent or retool himself to find a niche. He has time. He just isn't the player that many hoped for..
Posted on 1/16/22 at 5:26 am to Mulkey Man
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If you are trying to build an actual contender, you let the best guys play.
Fixed it for you. How are you going to attract veteran free agents in the future if they outplay rookies and you play the rookies over them anyway? You play to win the game. We went over this in the other thread.
Right now, Murphy is not only behind Graham, he's behind Naji. That's on him to fix. If you look at what's happened with Herb and with Jose, you can see that Willie Green has no problem playing rookies when they deserve it. Murphy simply needs to earn his playing time.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 7:29 am to Bonkers119
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didn’t realize being 1.5 games out of the play in meant it’s a lost season.
For sure, nothing says successful season like: 40% win percentage
Posted on 1/16/22 at 7:43 am to GOP_Tiger
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How are you going to attract veteran free agents in the future
You don’t build contenders out of 7th men and you don’t get to be a contender without elite talent.
You are right, we did go over this in the other thread, and as in there, it seems to be people thinking short term > Long term.
This team is much, much better off maximizing assets today and focusing on developing their young talent vs grinding our best remaining players to maximize a lost season and playing guys that likely won’t be here next year over getting in-game development time for our core developmental prospects.
Top tier free agents never come here, so to prioritize that in any real way is silly, at best we will begin attracting the JJ Redick’s of the world, guys on the back side of their career that you have to pay top of the market for, and as our salary is trending, that’s not gonna be the most viable option anyways. Our future largely hinges on draft and development, or trades. And the latter has not been easy to come by for this team either, and the thing that can improve the former is also the thing that bolsters the latter.
So I agree, free Murphy and let’s put long term franchise priorities back in balance. If that still puts us in the play-in, so be it, but this project has to be bigger than this season, or we will forever be in the cycle of seeing the trees and missing the forest like we’ve done with two superstars already.
This post was edited on 1/16/22 at 7:47 am
Posted on 1/16/22 at 8:56 am to NOSHAU
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Has Trey really been given a shot?
He averaged over 21 minutes per game in November
His minutes are being taken by a Herbert Jones, primarily. Green clearly prefers established vets
Posted on 1/16/22 at 8:56 am to Mulkey Man
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If you are trying to build an actual contender, you let the young guys play.
The young guys are playing
Posted on 1/16/22 at 9:00 am to Bronc
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This team is much, much better off maximizing assets today and focusing on developing their young talent
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So I agree, free Murphy
Free Murphy and bench which developing young guy? Ingram? Hart? Jones? NAW?
You would only have an argument if Murphy was being benched for a vet like Sato, but his minutes are going to other young guys (who are developing).
Posted on 1/16/22 at 9:17 am to NOSHAU
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Has Trey really been given a shot?
He was in the rotation early in the season. He was really bad and didn't earn the right to keep a spot in the rotation.
With Herb Jones as a 2nd round rookie starting the 1st game of the season and never looking back, irs clear Willie Green is perfectly fine playing rookies, so I don't get why there would be some weird thing where Willie is being unfair to Trey because he's a rookie.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 9:18 am to Mulkey Man
quote:Do you believe playing time should be given or earned?
If you are trying to build an actual contender, you let the young guys play
Posted on 1/16/22 at 9:52 am to shel311
Trey’s problem wasn’t shot selection or effort or something more individual. He was often in the wrong place which messes things up for everyone. That’s why he’s not playing more.
This post was edited on 1/16/22 at 9:53 am
Posted on 1/16/22 at 10:15 am to shel311
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Do you believe playing time should be given or earned?
Yes.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 10:36 am to TigerinATL
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Trey’s problem wasn’t shot selection or effort or something more individual. He was often in the wrong place which messes things up for everyone. That’s why he’s not playing more.
people woefully focus on the offense because they want guys to become good 3pt shooters, but all of this.
defense and communication progression are helping guys like NAW, Herb, Alvarado, and even Hayes get quality positive minutes. Murphy needs to understand it better.
Posted on 1/16/22 at 11:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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Free Murphy and bench which developing young guy? Ingram? Hart? Jones? NAW?
Temple to start. He is logging 24mpg over the last 15 and is not in the future for this team.
You also should be getting BI and Jonas more in line with their career averages for health reasons, BI has already had Achilles soreness and the last thing we need is a cumulative fatigue injury that threatens next season.
But like yesterday, singular use of a brain cell could provide the answer to this lazy question, it’s just you being you and engaging in bad faith.
This post was edited on 1/16/22 at 11:55 am
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