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A mostly useless recruiting class projection (1/10/22 version)

Posted on 1/10/22 at 11:07 pm
Posted by macaoidh
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
2922 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 11:07 pm
I did this a while back and a few of you thought it was good, but of course the circumstances have changed a good bit since then. So I figured I'd update it based on what we've got to look at now.

Figure 32 recruits, and figure 15 of them already nailed down - the 13 high school signees, plus Miles Frazier and Slade Roy out of the transfer portal. That gives Kelly 17 spots he can fill.

And here's how I'd project those spots get filled as of today...

1. Greg Brooks, CB, Arkansas (Jr/portal) - Brooks has an LSU offer and today the CB's went out for him to commit here. Given that he's a plug and play starter at a position of massive need, I'd say he's the most likely addition of anybody on the board.

2. Mekhi Wingo, DT, Missouri (So/portal) - Wingo is a Freshman All-SEC pick who played for LSU DB's coach Robert Steeples at DeSmet Catholic High School in St. Louis, and he got an offer last week. He's not at a position of colossal need given reports Joe Evans is coming back to LSU but he'd be a good rotational guy who could play a quick penetrating nose guard at times to complement Jacobian Guillory.

3. Jacoby Matthews, SS, Ponchatoula - Matthews is the top remaining high school prospect on LSU's board and he's a potential Day One starter at safety. The addition of Jared Arcement to the recruiting staff reportedly does a lot to close off Texas A&M as a possibility for him, which leaves Florida as a key competitor - but I'll bet on Corey Raymond finishing second like he's usually done over the last five years.

4. Trevonte Citizen, RB, Lake Charles College Prep - Citizen's statements of late make it sound like he's headed to Auburn, but I don't buy it. When Frank Wilson wants a Louisiana kid, he usually gets one. I see Frank closing Citizen after he visits later this month. But if I'm wrong, Montrell Johnson from ULL could be next up.

5. Kyren Lacy, WR, UL-Lafayette (Jr/transfer) - Lacy probably makes more sense than any of the other wide receivers left on LSU's board; he's local, being from Thibodaux, and he's 6-3 and 210 pounds. There aren't enough big guys like that on the roster. Lacy's been reasonably productive in his first two years, catching 50 passes for 558 yards and 10 TD's at ULL, and he wouldn't come in with the expectation of being WR1 right away unlike some of the other big star receivers in the portal.

6. Michael Trigg, TE, USC (So/portal) - Call this one a big of a wishcast on my part, but LSU was at one time a player for Trigg out of high school. He's probably the most athletic of the tight ends in the portal and he's got some size and physicality to him to become the complete tight end that Kelly and Denbrock like. We will definitely take a tight end in the portal. I hope it's this guy.

7. West Weeks, LB, Virginia (So/portal) - LSU getting Arcement, who was on the recruiting staff at Virginia, makes me think the offer to Weeks was more than a shot in the dark. He was highly productive as a freshman and he can run, which you've got to have if you're going to play linebacker in the SEC. LSU is in absolute dire need at LB, and the fast playing time available here should make LSU hot for at least one of them.

8. Joe Foucha, FS, Arkansas (Sr/portal) - Foucha is a no-brainer of a take where it comes to productivity. He's made 230 tackles during his college career. Supposedly they aren't crazy about him because he's only got one more year to play, but at the end of the day LSU is in dire straits depth-wise in the secondary and having a productive safety who can play up in run support or back in center field does a lot to shore things up. He could be the key to moving Jay Ward back to corner, which depending on what happens with Dwight McGlothern might be a necessity.

9. O'Cyrus Torrance, OL, ULL (Jr/portal) - Torrance played his high school ball at St. Helena Central, so he's a local kid. He's an all-conference guy in the Sun Belt who can play guard or tackle, and he moves really well for 6-6, 330. Billy Napier is trying to drag him down to Florida but Torrance is set to visit LSU later this month and I wouldn't bet against Kelly and Brad Davis to get him. He should be a plug and play guy at one of the guards for us.

10. Zavion Thomas, WR, John Ehret - Thomas is a Mississippi State commitment who chose not to sign early after the coaching change at LSU, and the rumor has it he's waiting on an offer from Kelly. With Cortez Hankton likely to get the WR's coach job here next week, and with Thomas on the board in Hankton's core recruiting area I'm going to say LSU jumps on Thomas. He has the speed to play corner if necessary and he’s also a potential return man.

11. R Mason Thomas, LB FT. Lauderdale, FL Cardinal Gibbons - Jamar Cain is supposed to have a relationship with Thomas and the word is he's interested in visiting LSU later this month. If that's true, it could make Thomas a high priority for the staff. He's an Iowa State commitment but he's a lot better than Iowa State and LSU has playing time to offer in a razor-thin LB corps.

12. Leroy Paige, LB/DB, New Orleans Martin Luther King Prep - I'm putting Paige on here as I did in my first list simply because he's the type of guy LSU finds during transitional classes. He's 6-3 and 200 pounds and on film you can tell he's a good football player. Add 20 pounds in the weight room and he could turn into a Damone Clark type LB for us (though with not quite Clark's speed). If not Paige, you can plug in Miguel Mitchell, the safety from Oxford, Alabama that we offered a week or so ago.

13. John Rutledge, WR/DB, Highland Park, TX - Brian Polian offered Rutledge this week after he won the 200 meter at the Texas A&M indoor meet with a time of 21.47, which is pretty damned fast. He goes 6-2 and 170 pounds, and he was his district's offensive MVP (7-5A) after he caught 49 passes for 766 yards and 10 TD's this year. Watching him on film is like watching Cooper Kupp or Adam Thielen - good size, lots of speed, super technically proficient and tough. He's a little on the skinny side to switch to defense at present, but with a year in the weight room you could make this kid a safety if he didn't pan out at wide receiver. Plus getting a kid out of Dallas in this class is a good idea.

14. Eric Reed, CB, Auburn (RFr/portal) - Reed was a kid the previous staff should have recruited out of Calvary Baptist but didn't, and Kelly now has the ability to fix that. He redshirted at Auburn, which was pretty loaded at corner this year. Reed has nice size at 6-1, 197 and he was a 4-star recruit out of high school. He's an easy addition at a place LSU desperately needs bodies. Reed can also play safety.

15. Troy Brown, LB, Central Michigan (Sr/portal) - Brown is a two-time all-conference performer for CMU, and at 6-2 and 220 he's got SEC size. I'm standing him in for the fact that we're going to take a second linebacker from the portal, though I couldn't tell you who it'll be.

16. Danny Lewis, TE, Westgate - LSU hasn't offered Lewis yet, and I would have expected to see us do that by now - so perhaps we won't after all. But I'll still put him in here, because (1) we do need another tight end even after taking one from the portal, and (2) he's good enough to play here.

17. Ahmad Moten, DT, Ft. Lauderdale, FL Cardinal Gibbons - Moten is a high school teammate of Thomas', and Cain recruited him when he was at Oklahoma. At 6-3, 280, he's the top uncommitted defensive lineman left on LSU's board. I'm going to go with Moten here over J'Mari Monette from Alexandria Senior High, who's the top available defensive lineman in Louisiana, but either could work. But if there's late movement on a higher-ranked prospect on the offensive or defensive lines, then this spot can go to one of those guys.
This post was edited on 1/10/22 at 11:09 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26939 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 11:13 pm to
Nice list.

Would be a fantastic list.
This post was edited on 1/10/22 at 11:14 pm
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32697 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 11:14 pm to
We should not fill this class. Next year is a banner year in state and we shouldn’t just fill the roster with warm bodies.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 11:16 pm to
Wingo seems like a pipe dream with the talent we have returning he'd be a rotational guy.

Citizen doesn't even have us in his top 3 as of now.

We haven't even offered Foucha.

Some of those other guys are PWO at best.

Seems like a pipe dream and not realistic.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 11:18 pm to
quote:

We should not fill this class. Next year is a banner year in state and we shouldn’t just fill the roster with warm bodies.

Unfortunately if you want to take the 7 extra guys, you have to fill the class and you can't carry the 7 over.

Normally I'm in favor of saving spots over taking warm bodies, but it's going to be really hard to do that this year given our roster numbers and needs at just about every position.

Posted by SlidellTiger
Madisonville, La
Member since Jan 2004
1450 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 11:21 pm to
Good analysis- hope we finish with a strong class
Posted by billyholawboy
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2007
916 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 11:23 pm to
If we take 32 this year we can still take 25 next year, correct.

If the answer is “yes”, then you take 32 b/c you need every warm body available to get a full team. I’d hate to have only 50 healthy players at the end of next year.
Posted by LesnarF5
Member since Apr 2015
9219 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 11:23 pm to
Nice list but I hope we can get 3 more OL through the portal.
Posted by macaoidh
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
2922 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 11:28 pm to
quote:

Wingo seems like a pipe dream with the talent we have returning he'd be a rotational guy.


Wingo is reportedly super fired up about the LSU offer and he and the family are huge Steeples groupies. And there is absolutely playing time in our D-line rotation for him this fall.

quote:

Citizen doesn't even have us in his top 3 as of now.


And yet he says he'll make a visit to LSU later this month, where he will get the full court press.

quote:

We haven't even offered Foucha.


Foucha isn't officially in the portal yet, ergo he doesn't officially have an LSU offer.

quote:

Some of those other guys are PWO at best.


Which ones? All have SEC and Power 5 offers.

quote:

Seems like a pipe dream and not realistic.


Then by all means give us your non-pipe dream list. I'm sure we're all waiting with baited breath to see some REAL expertise at work around here.
Posted by macaoidh
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
2922 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 11:30 pm to
quote:

Nice list but I hope we can get 3 more OL through the portal.


The third would have to be a center. You could trade out Moten for that if there's one who emerges. I don't really see a plug-and-play guy in the portal at present, though of course you'd get another shot at pulling one after spring practice.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 11:40 pm to
quote:

Then by all means give us your non-pipe dream list.


That's not the magic man's style. He's just here to bleed all over the board while providing absolutely nothing constructive or interesting.
Posted by macaoidh
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
2922 posts
Posted on 1/10/22 at 11:41 pm to
quote:

That's not the magic man's style. He's just here to bleed all over the board while providing absolutely nothing constructive or interesting.


I have noticed this, yes.
Posted by Wrucker16
Member since Jul 2014
3140 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 12:07 am to
We’ll take less HS kids and more portal guys. Hopefully save a few portal spots into the summer when more guys will pop up. Really need to get a stud boundary corner to put opposite McGlothern. With Ricks and Flott both leaving unexpectedly it leaves a big void there. Brooks and Foucha would be good gets and starters for us at Nickel and one of the safety spots
Posted by Herodijontiger
Myrtle Beach S.C.
Member since Apr 2021
902 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 12:21 am to
Most of the guys he mentioned have played are started somewhere else. So I don't think he was looking at them as just warm bodies.
Posted by dwright369
Member since Aug 2020
1357 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 1:36 am to
This is really well done, macaoidh. Great job & appreciate you putting this together!!
Posted by Gene Heinous
Member since Sep 2021
371 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:45 am to
Looks like a lot of Louisiana products on that list.....good job.....it's perfect for this year to bring 'em on home.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 2:50 am
Posted by LSU4Life12
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2016
1829 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 7:50 am to
You’ve gotta be the biggest piece of shite on this board and you’re just as worse on 247. You’re a miserable, sorry arse human being that feeds off of negativity. All you know how to do is bitch and complain
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 8:16 am to
How's anything I said negative?

We have Roy, Guillory, Smith, Wiggins and maybe Evans coming back - Wingo might want to be a full time starter and not a rotational guy

We haven't offered Foucha yet that is known

Citizen himself said in an interview lsu wasn't in his top 3

If you're on 24/7 then you'll know some of those other names are being targeted as PWO

People hate facts especially when it's not what they want to hear. We have the most candy arse fan base that wants everyone to wear purple and gold sunglasses 24/7 and never questioning anything against the grain.
Posted by SOL2
Dallas burbs
Member since Jan 2020
4806 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 8:43 am to
would be nice if we got 80% of these guys
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
5445 posts
Posted on 1/11/22 at 8:45 am to
quote:

We have Roy, Guillory, Smith, Wiggins and maybe Evans coming back


If you're in the rotation on the interior defensive line, you are a starter. It's not like the "starter" played 80% of the snaps. There's so much rotation going on with those guys. Also Wiggins doesn't play that position and Evans has proven less than Wingo has.

Not to mention the fact that it's widely reported LSU is the favorite to land Wingo.
quote:

We haven't offered Foucha yet that is known


He is not in the portal. He cannot have any offers.
quote:

Citizen himself said in an interview lsu wasn't in his top 3

He literally said the opposite of that.

“I have seven schools, but I’m trying to get down to five so I can drop a top five,” Citizen said. “I know for sure the ones who had offered and been talking with me, like LSU and Auburn, and Florida just got in the mix. So, that’s the top three right now."

quote:

People hate facts especially when it's not what they want to hear.

But nothing you said was a fact. It's your typical melting down over literally nothing.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 8:52 am
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