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re: How many players have ended career's with bowl game injuries?
Posted on 12/22/21 at 10:58 am to mdomingue
Posted on 12/22/21 at 10:58 am to mdomingue
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He put out a statement that he would sit out if he was drafted lower than a certain round, 3rd I think. At that point the UDFA route was better for him long term with respect to long term money and team selection.
If I’m an NFL team I call that bluff. Odds are your 6th or 7th round pick won’t make the team anyway.
If he doesn’t sign then he has to wait a year then go to the draft again. He would not have gotten drafted in the top 3 rounds then either.
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 11:00 am
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Posted on 12/22/21 at 11:51 am to FreddieMac
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That running back from Miami is the one that really pops for me.
But wasn't that literally the championship game?
Posted on 12/22/21 at 12:07 pm to geauxtigers33
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His ex was murdered and he was questioned for it. The BRPD did a terrible job of handling it.
100% on BRPD.
SAINTS still should’ve taken him in the draft
Posted on 12/22/21 at 12:14 pm to CDawson
There haven't been a whole lot of serious injuries in bowl games for guys entering the draft, at least as far as most of us know.
But it doesn't matter. At first it was just a few elite players sitting out, but now it's pretty much any player who can scrounge up an agent.
They don't have to practice or be around their inferior teammates, they go someplace warm to train, and it makes them look important, at least in their eyes.
The Playoff didn't kill the bowl games; it's kids like the ones on LSU's roster who are killing them. We've seen it over the last two regular seasons, so it's no surprise to see it in the bowl.
But it doesn't matter. At first it was just a few elite players sitting out, but now it's pretty much any player who can scrounge up an agent.
They don't have to practice or be around their inferior teammates, they go someplace warm to train, and it makes them look important, at least in their eyes.
The Playoff didn't kill the bowl games; it's kids like the ones on LSU's roster who are killing them. We've seen it over the last two regular seasons, so it's no surprise to see it in the bowl.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 12:27 pm to CDawson
In the past, players would buy insurance to cover lost revenues should they get hurt! Now they quit and we allow them to claim they opt out! Call a spade a spade… they quit on their team!
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:20 pm to FreddieMac
Wasn't that the NCG?
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:25 pm to CDawson
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With the ever increasing player withdrawal from bowl games (and in some instances quitting during the regular season) the last few years and the "injury chance" that always goes along with the narrative, does a study exist showing the actual chance of career ending injury that goes along with playing in a bowl game?
My intuition is that kids who opt out of bowl games are probably at greater risk of injury out doing other stuff vs preparing with their team. Some grad student should do a little study on it.
I just found these stats: Annually, there is an .8% (yes, less than 1%) that a player will be injured and have to miss the season. Of that .8%, 7.5% of those injuries require surgery, where 50% do not come back and play. Let’s just keep the math simple and use 1%, 10% and assume 10 games are played per year. Even with those conservative numbers, there is a .1% chance of significant injury in a single game, a .01% (that’s 1/10,000) chance that the injury would require some type of surgery and 1/20,000 chance of not playing again.
Percent chance of dying in a car crash in America is .01% annually. Now add in stupid crap kids do when they’re not playing football.
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 12/22/21 at 1:57 pm to FreddieMac
That was in a national title game
Posted on 12/22/21 at 3:05 pm to Barrister
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The one that I always think of is Ohio State QB Johnny Utah. He gots his knee blown out in the Rose Bowl.
Now that I think about it, there was another QB from Ohio State who's career ended in a bowl game. Guy named Shane Falco....I do not specifically remember an injury, but it is suspected he may have had some injury because he ended up throwing 5 interceptions in that Sugar Bowl.
But didn't both of those guys go on to have a really good movie career?
Posted on 12/22/21 at 3:43 pm to geauxtigers33
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Willis McGahee. He still had a good NFL career but it cost him draft money.
The funny thing about McGahee is that he still had 2 years of elgibility left, declared knowing he couldn't play his rookie season and forfeited a $2.5 million insurance policy. He had also been beaten out before the season by Frank Gore but Gore tore his ACL in Spring practice before that season (2002). Gore returned to be the starter in 2003 and 2004 and would have presumably driven down McGahee's stock.
Another Miami RB that wasn't so luck was Melvin Bratton who blew out his knee in the final game of his college career - the National Championship game against Oklahoma. He had a very short NFL career and was never the same player.
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:03 pm to geauxtigers33
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He would not have gotten drafted in the top 3 rounds then either.
He was gonna be the highest drafted O-lineman in the draft. He absolutely would have gone in the top 3 rounds the next year, IMO.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 5:16 pm to geauxtigers33
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there is zero reward for playing in one more game.
The reward is the brotherhood of fighting til the end with the TEAMmates that helped you get there.
Do society even remember the TEAM concept?
Posted on 12/22/21 at 5:19 pm to Dizz
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The bigger concern is the pulled hamstring
Does this risk only exist in a game and go away in high intensity workouts or speed training? Straw man argument. No reason backed up by data exist to abandon your teammates and quit.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 5:20 pm to CDawson
extremely few
Posted on 12/22/21 at 5:38 pm to CDawson
The risk is so low thru the years, they probably have just as much chance getting hurt in workouts...
Sorry, I don't believe in sitting out unless due to serious injury or surgery...
Sorry, I don't believe in sitting out unless due to serious injury or surgery...
Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:03 pm to geauxtigers33
I wonder how many ended or hindered their careers from being hurt doing other shite leading up to the draft? I would think the numbers would be similar.
Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:23 pm to geauxtigers33
Crap! Don't you people even remember?? Collins told every NFL team to NOT draft him so he could concentrate on clearing his name! He was cleared, became a free agent, and signed with Dallas! End of story!
Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:56 pm to Woodman
Lloyd's of London comes to mind
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:52 pm to CDawson
None, they’re all a bunch of pussies
Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:53 pm to Big Jim Slade
I remember that guy having nerve damage from his injury and that’s what hurt him more
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