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re: Just to clear up some confusion with regards to the Omicron variant
Posted on 12/18/21 at 7:09 am to TBoy
Posted on 12/18/21 at 7:09 am to TBoy
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I don’t recall seeing anything in the media that reports any specific study of this exact issue.
You will not see studies reported because actual nonbiased studies are not being conducted.
Why did Pfizer get their study results buried from the public for SEVENTY FIVE years.
If you rely on media reports for your health care decisions, you defy Darwinism.
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Posted on 12/18/21 at 7:14 am to Bass Tiger
1. Previous infection is a big reason why omicron is less troublesome.
2. Vaccines mitigate the danger of omicron.
3. Omicron is not very deadly.
“They” are misleading folks, and so are you. These are the facts. No one on the extreme right wants to admit #2, and no one the left wats to admit #1 and #3.
2. Vaccines mitigate the danger of omicron.
3. Omicron is not very deadly.
“They” are misleading folks, and so are you. These are the facts. No one on the extreme right wants to admit #2, and no one the left wats to admit #1 and #3.
Posted on 12/18/21 at 7:25 am to Bamadog75
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The vaxxed is why it keeps mutating.
What a dumbass.
Just when you thought no one could possibly be less intelligent than the gender spectrum crowd, along comes stupid shite like this.
Posted on 12/18/21 at 8:35 am to Evolved Simian
You stupid bastard. You think you're smart but not really. When you get vaxxed for a SPECIFIC variant which all you dumbasses did. You make the virus mutate to survive. Same thing happens every year with flu vaccines. So yeah smartass you dipshits made it mutate. And it will keep doing the same thing as long as you vaxxers keep getting boosted.
Posted on 12/18/21 at 8:43 am to Fun Bunch
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Studies out of the UK claim that it’s nonsense that Omicron is less deadly than Delta and that there’s no evidence to support it.
This was an extremely small study done in the UK. I think they looked at 24 patients. The RSA studies have much more data to go off and they stated yesterday that Omnicron hospitalization was 91% less likely than Delta two weeks into the surge.
Posted on 12/18/21 at 9:00 am to Bass Tiger
I passed a TV that was tuned to Fox News. There was an infectious disease doctor from John’s Hopkins discussing Omicron. He seemed quite credible and didn’t get into bad vs unvaxxed but instead discussed that Omicron appears to be 70 times more infectious than the base variant however it appears to be a self limited infection of the nares and therefore not causing severe lung infection.
He likened it to meningitis where the bacteria that causes the infection can be found in lots of folks, but only a relative few get meningitis.
So I see this new variant as a major break as it should infect lots of folks, with or without vaccination and provide a more complete and robust immunity to multiple COVID antigens and not just the mRNA replicated from the vaccines.
He likened it to meningitis where the bacteria that causes the infection can be found in lots of folks, but only a relative few get meningitis.
So I see this new variant as a major break as it should infect lots of folks, with or without vaccination and provide a more complete and robust immunity to multiple COVID antigens and not just the mRNA replicated from the vaccines.
Posted on 12/18/21 at 9:27 am to Bamadog75
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You stupid bastard. You think you're smart but not really. When you get vaxxed for a SPECIFIC variant which all you dumbasses did. You make the virus mutate to survive.
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Bamadog75
Sorry bud, you’re the idiot here. The occurrence of mutations has nothing to do with vaccines. The thriving of certain mutations does.
Posted on 12/18/21 at 9:36 am to Bass Tiger
It’s actually the opposite. The vaccinated are driving the variants because they aren’t as effective as the natural immune response because they enable high levels of viral load and spread which drive mutations.
Posted on 12/18/21 at 9:38 am to Bass Tiger
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The South African Dr/researcher that originally isolated Omicron didn’t say a damn thing about Omicron being less dangerous because people were vaccinated, as a matter of fact many of the people in SA who contracted the Omicron variant were unvaccinated and the SA Dr observed they were experiencing much less severe illness.
I've watched her interviews. She said the virus was so mild that there was NO increase in hospitalization admissions in S.A. at all.
She said she was totally bewildered as to why this virus is a global news issue. She was just reporting the existence of the virus like she's supposed to.
Posted on 12/18/21 at 9:55 am to Bass Tiger
As I understand it (I am not a doctor), viruses mutate as they age and become more transmittable but the symptoms are less severe. Until reaching the point that you when you catch it you are asymptomatic.
This is what is happening with the Chinese flu. And in 55 years they will release the data on it and we will find out that Ivermectin and HCQ are effective treatments. But the Pharmaceutical companies could not have made billions of dollars if there was a cheap, safe and effective drug already out there.
This is what is happening with the Chinese flu. And in 55 years they will release the data on it and we will find out that Ivermectin and HCQ are effective treatments. But the Pharmaceutical companies could not have made billions of dollars if there was a cheap, safe and effective drug already out there.
Posted on 12/18/21 at 10:22 am to Privateer 2007
It hasn’t met the fat asses in LA yet. Hospitals will fill up rapidly in BR, NO and Shreveport with fatties.
Posted on 12/18/21 at 10:25 am to Bass Tiger
All you actually need to know is that the vaccination rate in South Africa is about 20%. Hospitalization rate for Covid is about the same as seasonal flu.
South Africa is 24% HIV, the vast majority not taking HIV medication
South Africa is 24% HIV, the vast majority not taking HIV medication
Posted on 12/18/21 at 10:48 am to Bamadog75
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You stupid bastard. You think you're smart but not really. When you get vaxxed for a SPECIFIC variant which all you dumbasses did. You make the virus mutate to survive. Same thing happens every year with flu vaccines. So yeah smartass you dipshits made it mutate. And it will keep doing the same thing as long as you vaxxers keep getting boosted.
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Holy shite. Now you're doubling down on stupid.
Posted on 12/18/21 at 10:56 am to TBoy
Are you concerned about Omicron?
Posted on 12/18/21 at 10:59 am to Bass Tiger
Bottom line:
Who has antibodies and how well do they work?
Why are we all titty fighting when this shite is simple?
Who has antibodies and how well do they work?
Why are we all titty fighting when this shite is simple?
Posted on 12/18/21 at 11:01 am to BobBoucher
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It’s actually the opposite. The vaccinated are driving the variants because they aren’t as effective as the natural immune response because they enable high levels of viral load and spread which drive mutations.
This isn’t true, except the part about natural immunity being superior. The variants are randomly occurring. I’ve never heard of a mechanism by which a virus can design itself to elude immunity. Now, if you refer to natural selection, that is different, and that is occurring. In natural selection, randomly occurring variants will thrive to the extent they can dodge the vaccine immunity. But these variants would have happened regardless of vaccines. And without vaccines, some of these variants probably would have died off because they could not compete with existing variants, until Omicron occurred. It is obviously out-competing other variants in every cohort. So again, vaccines are having no material impact on the ultimate outcome of the race between omicron and delta, for example.
Posted on 12/18/21 at 11:05 am to FlyingTiger1955
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It hasn’t met the fat asses in LA yet.
There are many, but this is one obvious way to tell we’re being had with COVID. We now KNOW how adversely it effects overweight/obese people. Pretty much in line with the 65-and-over crowd. They represent as much as 80%+ of the hospitalizations and deaths. Yet not a single fricking word from the administration/CDC to lose weight, eat healthy, exercise to avoid COVID.
An all out national initiative to get healthy was teed up for us with COVID, but it’s completely ignored. If you mention obesity you’re accused of fat shaming. Nothing proves that they’re aren’t really serious about this bullshite more than this.
Posted on 12/18/21 at 11:07 am to alphaandomega
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But the Pharmaceutical companies could not have made billions of dollars
Who do you think makes HCQ and ivermectin? (Ivermectin is pharma giant Merck, in case you were wondering)
Ivermectin has about a 5000% markup at retail over production cost.
This post was edited on 12/18/21 at 11:10 am
Posted on 12/18/21 at 11:09 am to Bass Tiger
It has nothing to doing the vaccine. Its acting like most viruses. As it mutates and advances every strain gets weaker and weaker. This was predicted in the beginning but it was ignored because it goes against there sky is falling narrative.
Posted on 12/18/21 at 11:15 am to Penrod
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This isn’t true, except the part about natural immunity being superior. The variants are randomly occurring
When a vaccinated host allows high levels of viral load, its allowing excessive cycles of replication.
The more cycles of replication, the higher the chances of a mutation.
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