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NIL is not free market capitalism
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:14 pm
Regardless of your opinion on NIL or pay for play, the take that NIL is the “free market at work” is asinine.
The value of these athletes is derived from being attached to the universities they play for. Those universities, public and private, are government supported. If the universities were exclusively for-profit businesses, they would not have boosters lining up to pay athletes to play for their alma mater.
College athletics would not be immensely more popular than minor league sports if it were not irrevocably linked to institutions that receive billions in public funds. You cannot just pick out an aspect of a command economic system and say that’s the free market because that one aspect contains some free market characteristics.
If Alabama swapped rosters with Troy and LSU swapped rosters with Monroe, Alabama-LSU would still crush Troy-ULM in ratings. That disjunction between quality of play and interest would not exist in a true free market.
If these athletes’ endorsements are truly valuable, why do they only receive the deals upon signing to play college ball? NIL is more akin to political palm-greasing than a free market.
The value of these athletes is derived from being attached to the universities they play for. Those universities, public and private, are government supported. If the universities were exclusively for-profit businesses, they would not have boosters lining up to pay athletes to play for their alma mater.
College athletics would not be immensely more popular than minor league sports if it were not irrevocably linked to institutions that receive billions in public funds. You cannot just pick out an aspect of a command economic system and say that’s the free market because that one aspect contains some free market characteristics.
If Alabama swapped rosters with Troy and LSU swapped rosters with Monroe, Alabama-LSU would still crush Troy-ULM in ratings. That disjunction between quality of play and interest would not exist in a true free market.
If these athletes’ endorsements are truly valuable, why do they only receive the deals upon signing to play college ball? NIL is more akin to political palm-greasing than a free market.
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Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:17 pm to TomRollTideRitter
It's awful. NIL was a terrible deal, said it on day 1. Why do this? Overreaction as to the waaaaa poor athelete storyline.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:18 pm to TomRollTideRitter
wHy dO yoU haTE CapITaliSM
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:20 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Let this stuff play out a few years and then we’ll revisit. My sincere belief is that this will all sort itself out. NIL mega-deals are basically just lighting money on fire from an economic impact standpoint, and the transfer portal and high school recruiting doesn’t change the fact you can only have 85 scholarship players at time.
I understand why people hate it right now, and they may never like it, but the chaos will settle down soon enough.
I understand why people hate it right now, and they may never like it, but the chaos will settle down soon enough.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:21 pm to TomRollTideRitter
I think it simply needs to be reined in, but that's going to be really difficult. I don't even think some of these teams are using proper NIL deals, probably just money up front.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:24 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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College athletics would not be immensely more popular than minor league sports if it were not irrevocably linked to institutions that receive billions in public funds.
This.
Look at LSU vs Arkansas baseball game vs a AAA baseball game…March Madness vs the NBA D League championship game… Omaha vs the AAA “World Series”
It’s not the talent of the players it’s the schools they represent that allows them the fan base
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:28 pm to TomRollTideRitter
NIL is ridiculous, but if big money guys that support these schools want to throw money at kids, that's on them. I absolutely believe that these endorsement deals will start including contracts with language protecting their investments.
That said, the free reign on transfers is a complete disaster.
That said, the free reign on transfers is a complete disaster.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:29 pm to TomRollTideRitter
We all knew this was a slippery slope
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:36 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Its truly beyond me why this bothers yall
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:41 pm to TomRollTideRitter
A 5* recruit is valuable because he's a future star.
And wasn't the first NIL millionaire a gymnast who already had a massive Instagram following? She didn't need the name on the front of her leotard for that.
And wasn't the first NIL millionaire a gymnast who already had a massive Instagram following? She didn't need the name on the front of her leotard for that.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:47 pm to TomRollTideRitter
I think it’s hilarious that people tried to act like these kids were playing for free when other kids came out with 100k student loan debt plus they had of the art free Health care and nutrition.
It’s also not like the ncaa prevented them from making money on their NIL. They just couldn’t make money AND play for a college.
As to your point. If it was purely about the talent then the nba g league would have a big following
It’s also not like the ncaa prevented them from making money on their NIL. They just couldn’t make money AND play for a college.
As to your point. If it was purely about the talent then the nba g league would have a big following
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:52 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Isn’t the worth in a free market literally determined by the market? Who are you to associate a value on them?
Posted on 12/15/21 at 9:56 pm to TomRollTideRitter
NCAA fricked this all up
Posted on 12/15/21 at 10:02 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Amazing post OP should be stickied
Posted on 12/15/21 at 10:04 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Agreed.
And if the school has to “line up” NIL deals, then the player has no value.
College fans support their school.
95 percent of college athletes bring less value to the school than their scholarships are worth.
This whole idea that athletes are getting a bum deal is ridiculous.
And if the school has to “line up” NIL deals, then the player has no value.
College fans support their school.
95 percent of college athletes bring less value to the school than their scholarships are worth.
This whole idea that athletes are getting a bum deal is ridiculous.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 10:05 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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The value of these athletes is derived from being attached to the universities they play fo
Yeah & so?
In the professional leagues, players who play in major markets often earn more in endorsements than similar players of their talent in small markets.
Players at big programs will earn more than those at smaller programs.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 10:05 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Agree 100%. These players provide some value, but not as much as the general public would think. Fans proudly rep their universities with merch that isn’t associated with any single player. D3 athletes in Bama and Auburn unis would still produce a sellout for the game.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 10:58 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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If Alabama swapped rosters with Troy and LSU swapped rosters with Monroe, Alabama-LSU would still crush Troy-ULM in ratings. That disjunction between quality of play and interest would not exist in a true free market.
If this was to happen. No one would give a dog shite about LSU or Alabama. It’s about the players. People want to see the best players play each other.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 11:32 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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The value of these athletes is derived from being attached to the universities they play for.
Yeah, Travis Hunter signing with Jackson State today just rendered your argument useless. Stop being a dumbass
Posted on 12/16/21 at 12:15 am to TomRollTideRitter
Is this cope post just so you can say you disagree with NIL without feeling like less of a warm blooded American?
There's hardly anything you could call a "free market" if you wanted to nitpick like that. It's obvious that people just mean highest bidder wins recruits and everyone has a seat at the table.
There's hardly anything you could call a "free market" if you wanted to nitpick like that. It's obvious that people just mean highest bidder wins recruits and everyone has a seat at the table.
This post was edited on 12/16/21 at 12:20 am
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