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re: How quick are people going to change their tunes if top talent starts signing with HBCs
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:35 pm to CaptainPanic
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:35 pm to CaptainPanic
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There are currently plenty of solid HBCU players in the NFL
18
There are 18 former HBCU players in the NFL
And is the goal of an elite recruit to just make a roster?
This post was edited on 12/15/21 at 12:36 pm
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Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:36 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
Its not an if, it is a when. Primetime will lead to HBCUs hiring big time personality ex NFL superstars at a rapid rate. Those same athletes will insure NIL dollars flow. It will be an avalanche.
Now that we have quit pretending or even caring about the education of these young men it is a matter of time.
Now that we have quit pretending or even caring about the education of these young men it is a matter of time.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:42 pm to USMCTIGER1970
These idiots continue to show their true colors. I see no problem with HBCUs getting top talent.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:47 pm to AcetylCoA
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It didn’t ruin Rice, Sweetness, McNair, or Strahan. I love the fact that these kids are trying to be positive influences on the black community. They are taking initiative by putting their community into their own hands instead of blaming white people for everything.
Exactly because our communities need the boost
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:47 pm to SammyTiger
quote:Most of them being starters or getting significant playing time
There are 18 former HBCU players in the NFL
quote:I believe the goal is to make it to the NFL and going to an HBCU and shining there is not going to hold them back.
And is the goal of an elite recruit to just make a roster?
Where players go to college isn't as big of a factor in teams deciding to sign them as people want to believe.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:48 pm to tibebecolston
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have you ever visited an HBCU campus? It ain’t gonna last or be a thing.
Yes. I have visited Morehouse and Hampton University. Beautiful schools.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:50 pm to JKChesterton
quote:Well, I will, because that is the origin of this type of thinking. The fact that CEO's don't come from HBCU's should be even more reason not to throw money at them. The idea that large corporations will pour money into the pocket of a football player just because of the stats you provided is preposterous.
Well I am not going to get into the politics of it.
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So yes it could indeed happen.
Oh, I didn't disagree with this at all. Insanity is running rampant in our society.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:52 pm to OceanMan
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Take the money now and miss out on a larger investment in your development by going to a school that has actually invested in it
He may be ok developmentally if Deion takes him under his wing and mentors him for a few years. What he's missing out on is training table, up to date weight training, good equipment, a decent education, playing in front of big crowds, decent competition, first class travel, TV exposure, etc.
This post was edited on 12/15/21 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:52 pm to Hydrilla Gorilla
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If they want to ruin their careers that's on them
Do you know how many hall of famers came from HBCU’s ?
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:53 pm to Bottom9
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Plus the facilities there are dog shite.
Yeah I mean it's not an enticing proposition for most of these guys
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:54 pm to H-Town Tiger
Yeah, we know. Jesus Christ
Posted on 12/15/21 at 12:56 pm to bgtiger
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Well, I will, because that is the origin of this type of thinking. The fact that CEO's don't come from HBCU's should be even more reason not to throw money at them. The idea that large corporations will pour money into the pocket of a football player just because of the stats you provided is preposterous.
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So yes it could indeed happen.
Well I agree, these Corporate Boards do not have many grads from HBCU's. But, Corporations can be measured on their politics. You can look at a Corporation and see what there board invests in and what they support. Some Corporations are going to have liberal leaning boards, if they chose to invest in NIL deals for players at HBCU. And where the CEO's come from does not matter, The US has 330 million people, everyone of them is a potential customer. Now I agree there are some Corporations that make decisions that I chose not to support them. A Business decision but some corporations to invest in HBCU NIL deals might be part of a companies business strategy.
If it does not increase value of the stakeholders of the corporation broadly defined, stockholders employees, potential employees, customers, etc, then those investments will not be sustained.
In the end, the market place will sort it all out.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 1:07 pm to CaptainPanic
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Most of them being starters or getting significant playing time
Ok, and?
That’s still 18’playera out of 32 53 man rosters.
If you’re a 5 star you want to be a first rounder not just drafted not just making a roster.
There have been maybe 1-2 1st rounders from HBCU in the NFL. And they’re mostly OL who are befor pushy hard to scout out of high school.
Tutus Howard was the 23rd overall pick.
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Where players go to college isn't as big of a factor in teams deciding to sign them as people want to believe.
That’s just not true. The numbers show that NFL teams prefer players from bigger conferences and better conferences.
I am Not saying the kid will go Undrafted, but is he maximizing his potential playing 2 star WRs every week?
This post was edited on 12/15/21 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 12/15/21 at 1:11 pm to SammyTiger
quote:As of today. How long has NIL been around? If other schools start getting similar publicity that larger schools always have, why wouldn't that number increase over time?
Ok, and?
That’s still 18’playera out of 32 53 man rosters.
quote:That's just a byproduct of great players historically going to larger schools.
The numbers show that NFL teams prefer players from bigger conferences and better conferences.
Posted on 12/15/21 at 1:15 pm to CaptainPanic
Again, Southern can’t do what JSU is doing.
This isn’t just Sandwrs. The kid signed a multimillion dollar deal with the gambling company that owns Barstool. Does Southern’s coach have a part time job at a company with 1.5 billion in revenue?
Anyone pretending this was about anything besides $ is dumb
This isn’t just Sandwrs. The kid signed a multimillion dollar deal with the gambling company that owns Barstool. Does Southern’s coach have a part time job at a company with 1.5 billion in revenue?
Anyone pretending this was about anything besides $ is dumb
This post was edited on 12/15/21 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 12/15/21 at 1:16 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
It depends how many of them are willing to go without a massive NIL deal like Hunter got
Posted on 12/15/21 at 1:17 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
I would actually be pleased to see this happen
Posted on 12/15/21 at 1:17 pm to SammyTiger
This won’t be a trend for long. He will be get very tired of having no fans, tv exposure, crappy facilities, etc. he will be in a bidding war all next season from all the top teams and he will get PAID again. I’d be shocked if he was there for more than a season
Posted on 12/15/21 at 1:18 pm to deathvalleyfreak43
If this would happen where most of the black kids go back to where things were in the 40-60s...good for the schools. The playing field will be level for say the SEC schools. I remember those days...
Posted on 12/15/21 at 1:18 pm to SammyTiger
quote:Maybe not yet. Nor should they have to, but that doesn't mean they could make moves to bring in someone who does have a larger financial backing that can compete, even at a lower level, with NIL deals.
Again, Southern can’t do what JSU is doing.
I agree that it won't be the norm, but it is certainly not a bad thing for the sport
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