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re: Transfer portal - good or bad for college football?
Posted on 12/8/21 at 7:05 am to TigerFan244
Posted on 12/8/21 at 7:05 am to TigerFan244
Terrible, as are NIL and the unlimited number of coaches rebranded as "analysts."
Posted on 12/8/21 at 7:07 am to TigerFan244
Bad.
NFL rosters have more stability.
NFL rosters have more stability.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 7:08 am to TigerFan244
Not terribly sure anyone could ever convince me that it's a good thing the way it's currently constructed. I don't mind the idea of player movement, especially when coaches do it all the time, but they shouldn't be allowed to enter the portal the Sunday after being benched.
They should eliminate the Early Signing period and make the day after the NCG to NSD the window for Transfer Portal. You want to move? Fine, but you have to finish the season and once you're there you have to stay until next January.
They should eliminate the Early Signing period and make the day after the NCG to NSD the window for Transfer Portal. You want to move? Fine, but you have to finish the season and once you're there you have to stay until next January.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 7:09 am to Rand AlThor
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deserve the right to be able to chase their dreams, and the transfer portal lets them do that…even if it’s worse for the core spirit of the sport
They are taking up scholarships and not all of these guys go pro. Seems like chasing nil money instead of a degree isn’t what this should be about.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 7:11 am to lsuhunt555
Yeah the portal is a good concept but just needs some fine tuning. All that the portal is, is a way for coaches to contact players who want to transfer without tampering. In that limited role, the portal isn't some terrible thing.
The free transfer rule is what people are really freaking out about. But even then, you only get one of those (and it works 2 ways).
A lot of this is that it's different and CFB fans have a static way of viewing things often. In this instance, it's largely based around the recruiting perspective (and recruiting is much more gross than the portal). They follow these kids like lapdogs and see them as "my guys". They don't want to lose them and then possibly get some guys from the portal who they didn't follow during recruiting. Mentally they are biased and devalue those kids automatically.
The free transfer rule is what people are really freaking out about. But even then, you only get one of those (and it works 2 ways).
A lot of this is that it's different and CFB fans have a static way of viewing things often. In this instance, it's largely based around the recruiting perspective (and recruiting is much more gross than the portal). They follow these kids like lapdogs and see them as "my guys". They don't want to lose them and then possibly get some guys from the portal who they didn't follow during recruiting. Mentally they are biased and devalue those kids automatically.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 7:18 am to Mickey Goldmill
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I don’t like how it impacts my football team, but at the end of the day who am I to throw a fit about where a kid chooses to go to? It’s his life and his decision.
THIS. Coaches/assistants depart annually, those who recruited the players and built a relationship with them AND their families. Kids should be afforded the same opportunity ONCE during their college years. Obviously it makes retention and recruiting even more difficult, and in some cases facilitates the rich getting richer with their ability to cherry-pick an impact addition. Heck WE should be doing it, and I expect it, this cycle on the OL and at EVERY level of the DEF.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 7:25 am to TigerFan244
Of course it’s bad for college football that we are used to, but still I think the kids have the right to play where they want, even though it sucks.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 7:33 am to TigerFan244
It’s bad if you have NIL. You can’t have both and not expect CFB to turn into a semi pro league.
The coaches invest years recruiting these kids only to see them get plucked away due to street agents and greedy family members chirping in their ears.
The coaches invest years recruiting these kids only to see them get plucked away due to street agents and greedy family members chirping in their ears.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 7:35 am to TigerFan244
Excellent for the players
They can find playing time where instead of sitting the bench
Just ask Jalen hurts how it worked for him
As for the teams, it’s a mixed blessing. Win some and lose some.
In 2019, it worked out quite well for us. Got us a natty with Burrow
Now though, we’ve lost 2 qb’s in 8 months. time will tell how that pans out.
They can find playing time where instead of sitting the bench
Just ask Jalen hurts how it worked for him
As for the teams, it’s a mixed blessing. Win some and lose some.
In 2019, it worked out quite well for us. Got us a natty with Burrow
Now though, we’ve lost 2 qb’s in 8 months. time will tell how that pans out.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 7:44 am to BeepNode
Agree that free markets are good and that kids should never be locked in to non-optimal situations.
That said, whether it is scholarship, athletic investment or even NIL, there should be some level of commitment that is enforced. I say that loosely because I can start a job and quit right after onboarding as many times as I want.
IDK.. Maybe substantial NIL bonuses paid out incrementally?
That said, whether it is scholarship, athletic investment or even NIL, there should be some level of commitment that is enforced. I say that loosely because I can start a job and quit right after onboarding as many times as I want.
IDK.. Maybe substantial NIL bonuses paid out incrementally?
This post was edited on 12/8/21 at 7:52 am
Posted on 12/8/21 at 7:45 am to TigerFan244
College football is like Triple-A baseball. They don't play to win for the town they play in and they're all looking to move onward and upward.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 7:47 am to TigerFan244
Needs some restrictions
Posted on 12/8/21 at 7:49 am to Mongonius
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We wouldn’t have had Burrow without the ability to transfer
The 2018 and 2021 ability and reasons for transferring are nowhere near the same
Posted on 12/8/21 at 7:51 am to Hydrilla Gorilla
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The 2018 and 2021 ability and reasons for transferring are nowhere near the same
Ability, sure, but the grad transfer is very new in terms of CFB so that's not really an argument.
Reasons? Exactly the same. He didn't get awarded the starting job so he quit.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 7:52 am to TigerFan244
If these athletes want to start their careers make them employees and use salary caps and profit sharing to stabilize the product. Otherwise the system will eventually implode.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 7:53 am to TigerFan244
Horrible. When you get a guy who is a sophomore and the starting QB, but still transfers, that system is broken.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 7:54 am to Revelator
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that system is broken.
if by the "system" you mean the NCAA and NIL, then you are correct
Posted on 12/8/21 at 7:55 am to TigerFan244
It's terrible as the rules sit now. I think some of the rules that coaches were able to dictate where guys could go or them being able to deny their release was bullshite but the part where they had to sit out a year should still apply. This creates roster management nightmares now, hence the rule of being able to add 7 transfer portal spots. As bad as this may get, I don't know if 7 will be enough with players jumping ship from every program.
Posted on 12/8/21 at 7:56 am to Fessface
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College football is like Triple-A baseball. They don't play to win for the town they play in and they're all looking to move onward and upward.
Yep
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