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Advocate shilling for anti-StG forces - front page story about Sandy Springs
Posted on 9/21/19 at 6:51 am
Posted on 9/21/19 at 6:51 am
What's that?
A town in Georgia formed in ATL suburbs in the mid-00s that went with privatized services and is now going to a more traditional municipal model.
Subheadline?
Sandy Springs was model for St. George.
What the front page doesn't say (and what's buried in the story) is that after 14 years and improvement in the local economy, the more traditional model is more economically feasible for SS.
frick the Advocate.
A town in Georgia formed in ATL suburbs in the mid-00s that went with privatized services and is now going to a more traditional municipal model.
Subheadline?
Sandy Springs was model for St. George.
What the front page doesn't say (and what's buried in the story) is that after 14 years and improvement in the local economy, the more traditional model is more economically feasible for SS.
frick the Advocate.
This post was edited on 9/21/19 at 9:53 am
Posted on 9/21/19 at 7:02 am to udtiger
After 14 years ehh....
Maybe you can get a school within 28 years
Maybe you can get a school within 28 years
Posted on 9/21/19 at 7:28 am to Mr.Perfect
quote:Still waiting after far more years for any La. city/town to have a half decent decent school. I know I'll never live to see La. cities have good ones.
After 14 years ehh....
Maybe you can get a school within 28 years
A building with "school" written on it is no great accomplishment. Enough taxation and anyplace can slap together one.
Posted on 9/21/19 at 7:30 am to udtiger
I live in Sandy Springs and if your St. George ended up the same way as we did you’d be just fine.
Posted on 9/21/19 at 7:47 am to udtiger
The Advocate brought us to where we are today. Baton Rouge is a mess because of them. STG doesn’t exist if BR isn’t a mess.
Posted on 9/21/19 at 7:57 am to udtiger
If The Advocate is against St. George, that is reason enough to be for it, absent any other input.
Posted on 9/21/19 at 8:16 am to Sidicous
quote:
Still waiting after far more years for any La. city/town to have a half decent decent school. I know I'll never live to see La. cities have good ones.
Oh no doubt
Posted on 9/21/19 at 8:17 am to udtiger
Having been involved in a similar effort years ago in another state, I don’t see what the big deal is with the article. Contracting services to begin with is the financially responsible approach. You convert these services to in-house as it makes sense for the municipality. Bringing on full time public employees and all the associated costs while the city is still wet behind the ears could completely tie the hands of those tasked with running the city efficiently. The key is hiring a highly capable City Manager (or whatever you want to name it) and providing some safeguards from the daily political bullshite.
Posted on 9/21/19 at 8:21 am to lsufanz
Correct.
But that's not the tenor of the headline/subheadline and blurb that's on the front page.
But that's not the tenor of the headline/subheadline and blurb that's on the front page.
Posted on 9/21/19 at 8:27 am to Icansee4miles
quote:
If The Advocate is against St. George, that is reason enough to be for it, absent any other input.
This is a sad commentary - I loved the Advocate when I was at LSU in the late 50's. I loved it even more when I went to other parts of the country after graduation and saw the 'big papers' which didn't cover their own area on the sports pages as well as the Advocate did back in BR.
When I finally settled in the Houston area for 35 years, I loved the Houston Chronicle - it was the conservative alternative to the commie leaning Houston Post.
As a teenager growing up in the woods of Vernon Parish I was treated to the Shreveport Times and the Beaumont Enterprise - where I ventured from the comics to the editorial pages to read the "intellectual" take on current events - Loved them all.
NOW - from the samples I have seen from all these once-great journals they are nothing but air-horns blown by leftwing scum.
Is there a newspaper in America that covers the news fairly??
Posted on 9/21/19 at 8:27 am to udtiger
Understood. I see what you’re saying and concur. Headline is inaccurate and ridiculously subjective “journalism.”
Posted on 9/21/19 at 9:36 am to udtiger
Right now SG is not incorporated. We send our local sales tax dollars to BR and they spend it as they see fit.
Do we get something in return? Certainly, but after years of debating the subject no one can tell us exactly what. Throw in the fact two mayors and two administrations as well as the city hall crowd has fought as hard as they could to keep our money you have to know we are paying for a lot of their “stuff”.
It’s time to move on. Vote for SG. Vote to become a city. Vote to be like Sandy Springs and take more control of your own destiny. After that I trust we can do better than what they are doing right now.
Do we get something in return? Certainly, but after years of debating the subject no one can tell us exactly what. Throw in the fact two mayors and two administrations as well as the city hall crowd has fought as hard as they could to keep our money you have to know we are paying for a lot of their “stuff”.
It’s time to move on. Vote for SG. Vote to become a city. Vote to be like Sandy Springs and take more control of your own destiny. After that I trust we can do better than what they are doing right now.
Posted on 9/21/19 at 9:54 am to Sidicous
quote:
Still waiting after far more years for any La. city/town to have a half decent decent school.
That will never happen because there is too much state and federal control due to money from those levels coming in. This is why private schools perform far better on average.
Not all communities are equal, local control of schools exposes that. State and federal control seeks to make them equal but instead of pulling up the failing students (or making curriculum for them like we used to) they instead lower the bar on quality for the sake of balance.
Until this mindset changes (whether it's by raising the bar or allowing communities to set their own standards through local control, we will continue with nothing but the same from our public schools.
Posted on 9/21/19 at 10:32 am to udtiger
Good thing no one in St George gets the advocate
Posted on 9/21/19 at 12:26 pm to Wally Sparks
quote:
I live in Sandy Springs and if your St. George ended up the same way as we did you’d be just fine.
If it’s anything like it was when I left GA in 2013, Sandy Springs ain’t hurting. If that’s the best “failure” story The Advocate found, everybody should be thoroughly convinced to vote for St. George.
Posted on 9/21/19 at 5:53 pm to ChineseBandit58
quote:Damn Bandit, how old are you?
loved the Advocate when I was at LSU in the late 50's
I thought you were born in 58... is that when you graduated college?
Posted on 9/29/19 at 7:33 am to udtiger
And...in today's Advocate, top of the fold?
"In St. George, Emotions Run High"
Story of two families - one for, one against.
One for (family with two small kids) - education
One against - older empty next couple - proposed St. George is "exclusionary" (only 12% black), plus uncertainty about the city's finances.
Now...the interesting part is on 6A where the younger family says THEY WILL MOVE TO ASCENSION if it doesn't pass for better schools while the older couple will just move into BR proper.
In other words, St. George is EBR Parish's only hope to stem outmigration.
This is all on the front page
"In St. George, Emotions Run High"
Story of two families - one for, one against.
One for (family with two small kids) - education
One against - older empty next couple - proposed St. George is "exclusionary" (only 12% black), plus uncertainty about the city's finances.
Now...the interesting part is on 6A where the younger family says THEY WILL MOVE TO ASCENSION if it doesn't pass for better schools while the older couple will just move into BR proper.
In other words, St. George is EBR Parish's only hope to stem outmigration.
This is all on the front page
Posted on 9/29/19 at 7:48 am to udtiger
quote:
One against - older empty next couple - proposed St. George is "exclusionary" (only 12% black)
I love this argument. It’s like they legit think StG is gonna put up walls with armed guards to keep black people out.
Posted on 9/29/19 at 8:09 am to udtiger
Will St. George have a school system?
Posted on 9/29/19 at 8:40 am to Damone
quote:
Will St. George have a school system?
That's certainly the goal.
Unfortunately, the entire state gets to weigh in on that one and I am certain the screams of racism in that election will make the current election look like an afternoon tea.
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