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O Will Always be Compared to Les, Saban, and Jimbo/Herman
Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:35 pm
Like it or not, that's simply going to be a fact of his tenure.
Why?
A) Les - that's who he succeeded and who was fired for (you can fill in the blank but in a word) underachievement. It was expected of him to win more than 8-9 games/yr.
B) Saban - main competition in the SECW; pacesetter in CFB
C) Jimbo/Herman - because those are the two guys he was ostensibly hired instead of.
If he wants to be considered a "success" he's going to have exceed Les's record and beat the others on the field.
Why?
A) Les - that's who he succeeded and who was fired for (you can fill in the blank but in a word) underachievement. It was expected of him to win more than 8-9 games/yr.
B) Saban - main competition in the SECW; pacesetter in CFB
C) Jimbo/Herman - because those are the two guys he was ostensibly hired instead of.
If he wants to be considered a "success" he's going to have exceed Les's record and beat the others on the field.
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Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:37 pm to AlwysATgr
Mkay
Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:38 pm to AlwysATgr
I think this is something we all agree on...sooo
Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:38 pm to AlwysATgr
I agree with this. Curious as to what sparked you to write this right now?
Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:44 pm to TIGER FAN 72
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Curious as to what sparked you to write this right now?
IMO, the O-apologists dismiss and downplay the comparisons. And for the most part, they are not favorable comparisons at this juncture.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:50 pm to AlwysATgr
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If he wants to be considered a "success"
10 wins, a NY6 victory and finishing ranked #6 in the polls is a pretty successful season. Finishing top 5 in recruiting is pretty damn successful as well. It's only one season and it will need to continue to improve for his tenure to be considered successful. Hopefully that's what we will see in 2019 and beyond.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:51 pm to AlwysATgr
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O-apologists
What exactly is there that needs to be apologized for again?
Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:55 pm to TigerLunatik
Alwysatgr will always be compared to Tiger ree, voltiger, its just a fact of his tenure. Not favorable at this juncture.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:55 pm to AlwysATgr
I don’t see the prob
Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:55 pm to AlwysATgr
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C) Jimbo/Herman - because those are the two guys he was ostensibly hired instead of.
Hahahaha! I know it’s Friday, but 12:35 seems to be a little early to be completely wasted drunk. LSU never had a shot to hire either of those guys. That was either concocted by a delusional fan base or a marketing ploy by their agents to get more money from UT and A&M.
This post was edited on 2/8/19 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 2/8/19 at 12:57 pm to AlwysATgr
Oeaux is unjustifiably compared to 3 of the 4 coaches on your list. Les, Saban and Fisher can be compared, however Oeaux and Herman only wish to be included in the conversation...
Posted on 2/8/19 at 1:00 pm to TigerLunatik
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If he wants to be considered a "success"
10 wins, a NY6 victory and finishing ranked #6 in the polls is a pretty successful season. Finishing top 5 in recruiting is pretty damn successful as well. It's only one season and it will need to continue to improve for his tenure to be considered successful. Hopefully that's what we will see in 2019 and beyond
Dammit Luny. You done gone and did it now. The lunatic fringe will be out to get you now that you've become an O sycophant and apologist.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 1:02 pm to TigerLunatik
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10 wins, a NY6 victory and finishing ranked #6 in the polls is a pretty successful season. Finishing top 5 in recruiting is pretty damn successful as well. It's only one season and it will need to continue to improve for his tenure to be considered successful. Hopefully that's what we will see in 2019 and beyond.
And his first season wasn't a success. So that's why people are still not sold.
I would say we had a good season that met my expectations as far as win total. If we are going by wins, and recruiting rankings. Les' last full season was a success by those standards.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 1:06 pm to bencoleman
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The lunatic fringe will be out to get you now that you've become an O sycophant and apologist.
That's fine too. I mean I think some go way overboard with the praise sometimes. But, if we're gonna be critical when things go bad then it's only fair to recognize when things go well. That's all I'm saying.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 1:07 pm to AlwysATgr
And he’s by far the least competent coach from that list.
Not even close.
Not even close.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 1:09 pm to dgnx6
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Les' last full season was a success by those standards.
Did the 2015 team finish top 10 with a Fiesta Bowl type win? IMO, the difference is in the types of losses and the bowl win. It's strictly a subjective thing for each person. Everyone has their own idea of success. I do agree that we need to see some improvement in 2019 in order to keep the faith.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 1:12 pm to Skeezer
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And he’s by far the least competent coach from that list.
Not even close.
Perhaps.
Time will tell (and games and recruiting and rankings).
Example: in year 2 of Les's tenure, we finished 3rd. We finished 6th in O's. Not bad. But still not as good as Les.
O has his opportunity now.
Posted on 2/8/19 at 1:13 pm to TigerLunatik
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What exactly is there that needs to be apologized for again?
How is this germane?
Posted on 2/8/19 at 1:16 pm to TigerLunatik
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Did the 2015 team finish top 10 with a Fiesta Bowl type win? IMO, the difference is in the types of losses and the bowl win. It's strictly a subjective thing for each person. Everyone has their own idea of success. I do agree that we need to see some improvement in 2019 in order to keep the faith.
Come on. Played a similar opponent. Maybe better in 15.
That would be like the rice game getting cancelled and we ended up in a bowl a tier down and still beating a decent opponent. It's the same season.
That's what I'm trying to point out. That season was considered a failure, why has it swung so much the other way?
If Ed losses to Texas and Vandy starting 2-2. Will he get fired? I doubt it.
This post was edited on 2/8/19 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 2/8/19 at 1:17 pm to AlwysATgr
rantards will be rantards
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