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re: O Will Always be Compared to Les, Saban, and Jimbo/Herman

Posted on 2/8/19 at 6:04 pm to
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 2/8/19 at 6:04 pm to
You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but to me that just seems like something to complain about. If someone asked me before the season if I would have been happy with 10 wins, top 10 finish and top 5 recruiting class, the answer would have been a resounding yes.
Posted by TrevRollings29
Orlando
Member since Dec 2018
969 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 6:06 pm to
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if I would have been happy with 10 wins


Happy? Yes. Unexpected? No. Lsu had more talent than nearly everyone they played. I'm happy with this season. However, with any real offense, LSU goes 12 - 1. That's the expectation we would have held Les to this year.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93810 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 6:08 pm to
It seems as though most people are expecting a 1 or 2 loss season in 2019, so we'll just have to wait to see what happens.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10336 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 6:10 pm to
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And cam still scored more in 2015 against Bama than e has in his friggin life as a LSU OC


Well hell, if that's the measuring stick, I guess Cam is better than Saban since he hung 56 on UAB in one game and Saban scored 13 against them in his entire career?
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10097 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 6:11 pm to
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Yeah, that year. The year he inherited Les Miles shite OC that went 2-2 to start the season averaging 339 yards total offense.
Except he lost to the only 2 teams with a defensive pulse?
Being an OC isn't all making calls vs hapless defenses from an offense someone else built the plays, routes and blocking schemes for during the previous offseason, anyway

Since borrowing that 2016 offense, it's been a struggle to top the previous regimes worst one (without benefit of 7 OTs)
Hopefully 2019 can at least better the ppg of maybe half of them.
Posted by TrevRollings29
Orlando
Member since Dec 2018
969 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 6:15 pm to
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so we'll just have to wait to see what happens.


I agree, but this should he the last year hes allowed to win less than 11 in the regular season
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 6:36 pm to
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pretending that going 9-3 with a bowl win over an overhyped Group of 5 team with one of the worst defenses in the country proves otherwise is simply willful ignorance.


Our offense this year was worse than 2015. Our defense this year was worse that 2015. We got beat by Alabama at HOME worse than we did in 2016 or 2017. In 2016 we loss to a bad Florida team. In 2017 we lost four games including a Troy team we were much more talented than. In 2018 we lost to Texas A&M and Florida. Two teams we were suppose to beat. We got smoked by Alabama for the seventh defeat by them in a row and the third under O. Seven defeats in two years. 5-3 in the SEC. 5th in the SEC. We were eleventh in the final playoff poll.

It was a good year. O did ok. Finishing in the top 10 is nice. Next year we need to beat Alabama and win the west or make the playoffs. We can praise 10-3 all we want, but in reality if not for a game cancellations LSU having ten or more wins since 2005 would have happened ten times.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23843 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 6:42 pm to
Sports people always compare. It’s part of the disease. No big deal.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 6:42 pm to
3 of them are on the schedule next year. Go 3-0 next year and you get everyone on your side.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 7:20 pm to
“the last year he’s allowed to win less than 11 games in the regular season”

I’ve been told in the past a number of times that anyone can win 10 games at LSU. Of course, I was also informed a number of times that it’s not about winning games, it’s about winning titles.

Amazingly, three years after a coaching change winning 10 games equates to a “great” season and we shouldn’t expect a West title until Nick dies.

No sir, those goal post haven’t gotten closer or wider at all.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 8:43 pm to
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I agree, but this should he the last year hes allowed to win less than 11 in the regular season



Get fked a-hole. Winning 11 games requires skill and luck. Lots of things have to go your way to do it. Miles did it 5 of the eleven years he was here. Thats pretty good.

You're acting like its some kind of routine thing. Should he win 11+ in a season every once in a while sure. But we all know we can chalk one L every year to Bama.....and then run the table from before and after....which we never seem to do...dating back to Saban.

We still dont have any real answers on both lines and we will only go as far as they take us.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 8:48 pm to
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we shouldn’t expect a West title until Nick dies.

No sir, those goal post haven’t gotten closer or wider at all.


I like how you conveniently leave out the part about how we would have NEVER sniffed another SEC title much less a playoff berth with Les at the helm.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 8:51 pm to
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I’ve been told in the past a number of times that anyone can win 10 games at LSU. Of course, I was also informed a number of times that it’s not about winning games, it’s about winning titles.


This shite is so old and tired and it makes you sound like a petty, fking dummy regurgitating it year after year.

Find a new angle hoss.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 9:12 pm to
“ this shite is so old”

Are you saying that wasn’t regurgitated on a regular basis? We both know it was and I as I recall, you espoused it yourself.

It’s interesting that when you were the one regurgitating it, you didn’t seem to have a problem with it but now you do. Go figure
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 2/8/19 at 9:28 pm to
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It’s interesting that when you were the one regurgitating it, you didn’t seem to have a problem with it but now you do. Go figure



Regurgitating what??? I'm not a broken record and have never been one of the "any one can win ten games at LSU crew."

You got me mixed up with some other dude. If you can find that in my post history....good luck.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 2/9/19 at 2:08 am to
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The year he inherited Les Miles shite OC that went 2-2 to start the season averaging 339 yards total offense.




He didnt keep Cam when he was named interim head coach.
quote:

He didn't choose schemes and make long-term decisions? You want to give Miles credit for O firing Cameron?



Cam was gonna be let go at the end of 2016. O was given the option of letting him finish the season or leave when O was named interim.

Thats not making a long term decision. The decision has already been made.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46627 posts
Posted on 2/9/19 at 2:33 am to
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like how you conveniently leave out the part about how we would have NEVER sniffed another SEC title much less a playoff berth with Les at the hel


This was said in 2008 and 2009 too.
The evidence in this scenario is that miles had already had a bad couple of years and then turned around to winning the sec title.

Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10097 posts
Posted on 2/9/19 at 5:02 am to
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This was said in 2008 and 2009 too.
The evidence in this scenario is that miles had already had a bad couple of years and then turned around to winning the sec title.


Weird it would've impossible for the coach with 2 Natty appearances winning one, plus 2 SEC titles, but very possible for the coach who's never finished better than 3rd SEC in his career.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 2/9/19 at 5:42 am to
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Finishing 4th in his conference and 5th overall isnt a success in any sense compared to the Miles era


It's a success by any metric. Take that horseshite somewhere else.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 2/9/19 at 5:57 am to

Except he lost to the only 2 teams with a defensive pulse?
Being an OC isn't all making calls vs hapless defenses from an offense someone else built the plays, routes and blocking schemes for during the previous offseason, anyway[/quote]



This is when you want to take the gloves off and call somebody the names that a person deserves.

Steve didn't have to step up in an incredibly difficult situation he could've just said hey I'm tight ends coach get somebody else.

He stepped up and did well, what does he get for it? A fricking ingrate shitting all over him on a message board.


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from an offense someone else built the plays, routes and blocking schemes for during the previous offseason, anyway



What did you want him to do install another offense midseason.



You oughta be ashamed of yourself for that post. It's a crying fricking shame that you can't see how shitty of a post that was. It reflects on you as a person for sure.
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