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Night games at TS
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:49 pm
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:49 pm
I understand TV money is the lifeblood of the sport, but I wish LSU would just say “our tradition is to play home games at night. Whichever network that televises SEC games wants them is fine, but we aren’t playing during the day at home.”
Announcers all say it’s the best atmosphere there is. They should want to show it as much as we want to have it. I’d take ESPN every time over 2:30 CBS.
Announcers all say it’s the best atmosphere there is. They should want to show it as much as we want to have it. I’d take ESPN every time over 2:30 CBS.
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Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:54 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
Yeah well...that's NOT how any of this TV broadcasting/contracts work...lol
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:54 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
It’s the best atmosphere once every 5+ years.
TV makes money every game.
TV makes money every game.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:55 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
I agree with the sentiment, but that’s not how things work.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:57 pm to LurkerTooLong
Yes but it could work like that.
Money is the reason. Find a way around it.
Money is the reason. Find a way around it.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 11:06 pm to pwejr88
Exactly. Schools make individual deals and requests all the time.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 11:14 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
I think games against teams like UAB should be at 2:30. Those games can be unnecessarily late or early, and I feel like 2:30 is a perfect start time for those games. The atmosphere is meh for those games anyways. You can be there way too late and for way too long sometimes.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 11:19 pm to pwejr88
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Yes but it could work like that.
Are you in college? It really couldn’t work like that for 1000 different reasons and we’d get immediately kicked out of the SEC for trying to violate their contract, which would snowball into a complete financial disaster. Some life advice- if you’re going to take a chance on fricking yourself royally, roll the dice on something that has actual tangible value, not things like wanting to watch your team play while the moon is out rather than the sun.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 11:21 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
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but I wish LSU would just say “our tradition is to play home games at night
You think LSU has a voice in this, or any other school for that matter?
When a network is paying Billions...they're gonna put on who they want, when they want.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 11:34 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
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Schools make individual deals and requests all the time.
See cowbells & Moo State. Give us night games only. That is our tradition.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 11:36 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
I’m not going to say ESPN cost us a game this year, but they hurt us with the 11 am kickoff.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 11:48 pm to pwejr88
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Yes but it could work like that. Money is the reason. Find a way around it.
It really couldn’t. CBS has a contract that guarantees them the best matchup in the afternoon time slot. They aren’t going to agree to pass up LSU home games to support LSU tradition. When ESPN takes over, they’re still going to want the best game in that time slot. Beyond that, no one in the conference wants to play in the 12 ET (11 CT) time slot. There is no way to exempt only LSU from playing at that time.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 12:54 am to BornAndRaised_LA
From the inception of TV on into the 70s, the NCAA oversaw CFB games on TV. There was usually only 1 or 2 games broadcast each week. For one thing, it meant if you wanted to see your team play you had to be in the stadium to do it. That changed from a lawsuit against the NCAA in the late 70s.
Oklahoma and Georgia TV Lawsuit against the NCAA
Even in that era, game times and dates were moved to accommodate TV:
LSU-Auburn in '69 was played in TS in the afternoon.
LSU-OM in '70 was moved to a later date.
LSU-Bama in '81 was moved to the opening game.
I think now the SEC Office negotiates TV deals for the whole conference with the networks.
What I would caution is that traditions need to be respected and preserved even for traditions you abhor of schools you despise. Traditions are what make CFB the sport it is. Else, it devolves into AA baseball.
So here's some ideas:
- The ADs ought to acknowledge traditions of member schools. Example, State if you won't help us get some latitude in night games (our tradition), we'll begin pushing to prohibit cowbells (artificial noise makers and their tradition) from stadiums. Likewise, no live animals in stadiums (that would affect A&M, UTenn, AU, UGA, State, and soon to be OU and UTx.
- I've never understood why the biggest game each week is not shown during prime time. Why is that? Because CBS shows the biggest game of the season at night.
- We need to put a hold on the neutral site games. That alone could give us another big night game in TS every other season.
- TS at night is a national treasure. All of CFB is benefited when there are big night games in TS.
- Give us some latitude to opt out of say one game a year from being moved to daytime if another network is willing to carry us at night. It would be interesting to know how much a network was willing to reduce their contracts by to 'lose' one of our home games each season.
- We had four SEC home games this year. Three were against top-10 teams. But only one was a night game. That's what TV has done to our tradition. What if State was only allowed to being cowbells to one SEC game. Or Auburn could only launch their eagle for one SEC game. There are SEC games on every Sat night so why not our home games?
- Kinda odd to think we had four SEC away games and two already were night games and I'm guessing the A&M game will be night as well. So 3 of 4 away games were night but only 1 of 4 home games was. Something's wrong with this picture.
Oklahoma and Georgia TV Lawsuit against the NCAA
Even in that era, game times and dates were moved to accommodate TV:
LSU-Auburn in '69 was played in TS in the afternoon.
LSU-OM in '70 was moved to a later date.
LSU-Bama in '81 was moved to the opening game.
I think now the SEC Office negotiates TV deals for the whole conference with the networks.
What I would caution is that traditions need to be respected and preserved even for traditions you abhor of schools you despise. Traditions are what make CFB the sport it is. Else, it devolves into AA baseball.
So here's some ideas:
- The ADs ought to acknowledge traditions of member schools. Example, State if you won't help us get some latitude in night games (our tradition), we'll begin pushing to prohibit cowbells (artificial noise makers and their tradition) from stadiums. Likewise, no live animals in stadiums (that would affect A&M, UTenn, AU, UGA, State, and soon to be OU and UTx.
- I've never understood why the biggest game each week is not shown during prime time. Why is that? Because CBS shows the biggest game of the season at night.
- We need to put a hold on the neutral site games. That alone could give us another big night game in TS every other season.
- TS at night is a national treasure. All of CFB is benefited when there are big night games in TS.
- Give us some latitude to opt out of say one game a year from being moved to daytime if another network is willing to carry us at night. It would be interesting to know how much a network was willing to reduce their contracts by to 'lose' one of our home games each season.
- We had four SEC home games this year. Three were against top-10 teams. But only one was a night game. That's what TV has done to our tradition. What if State was only allowed to being cowbells to one SEC game. Or Auburn could only launch their eagle for one SEC game. There are SEC games on every Sat night so why not our home games?
- Kinda odd to think we had four SEC away games and two already were night games and I'm guessing the A&M game will be night as well. So 3 of 4 away games were night but only 1 of 4 home games was. Something's wrong with this picture.
This post was edited on 11/8/22 at 12:57 am
Posted on 11/8/22 at 4:55 am to AlwysATgr
Ain’t gonna happen.
Imagine paying seven figures for a Ferrari. It’s one of those deals where you never get to leave the track with it and you have to reserve track time to drive it.
By God, you don’t want to get there one afternoon and be told that the track owner really doesn’t like his track being driven by exotics at night and that you’re going to be driving only minivans until the sun sets.
The networks have made a serious investment…the kind of investment that entitles them to exclusive rights to the LSU game at prime time or not at all and anything in between if that’s what they want. Period. If LSU wants to tinker with that model, they’re crazy.
Not to mention that the five star recruits want maximum exposure, which means playing whenever the networks will promote the opportunity to watch.
Imagine paying seven figures for a Ferrari. It’s one of those deals where you never get to leave the track with it and you have to reserve track time to drive it.
By God, you don’t want to get there one afternoon and be told that the track owner really doesn’t like his track being driven by exotics at night and that you’re going to be driving only minivans until the sun sets.
The networks have made a serious investment…the kind of investment that entitles them to exclusive rights to the LSU game at prime time or not at all and anything in between if that’s what they want. Period. If LSU wants to tinker with that model, they’re crazy.
Not to mention that the five star recruits want maximum exposure, which means playing whenever the networks will promote the opportunity to watch.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 6:00 am to sta4ever
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think games against teams like UAB should be at 2:30. Those games can be unnecessarily late or early, and I feel like 2:30 is a perfect start time for those games. The atmosphere is meh for those games anyways. You can be there way too late and for way too long sometimes.
Were you ever a student? Let the students enjoy as many night games as they can. If you won’t go to a night game someone else will instead of you. 2:30 is nice for away games. Night in tiger stadium is unlike any stadium in America
Posted on 11/8/22 at 9:58 am to r0cky1
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Were you ever a student? Let the students enjoy as many night games as they can.
Well let’s not act like these students today like staying for those types of games past halftime anyways. I don’t really understand this response.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 10:00 am to BornAndRaised_LA
I wish we played all of our games at night, but TV pays the bills.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 3:44 pm to Recoveringcajun
It's not being suggested that we act unilaterally. We can't. We shouldn't.
The TV deal that the SEC negotiates is supposed to be a win-win. If the conference collectively decided to ask for more latitude in game times for us as our tradition, do you think a network would walk away from millions in profits so we could have another night game?
They aren't stupid. We just need to get the other schools in our corner.
The TV deal that the SEC negotiates is supposed to be a win-win. If the conference collectively decided to ask for more latitude in game times for us as our tradition, do you think a network would walk away from millions in profits so we could have another night game?
They aren't stupid. We just need to get the other schools in our corner.
Posted on 11/8/22 at 3:47 pm to Recoveringcajun
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Not to mention that the five star recruits want maximum exposure, which means playing whenever the networks will promote the opportunity to watch.
Why are nights 7-10 PM referred to as "prime time?"
Posted on 11/8/22 at 3:50 pm to BornAndRaised_LA
Because that’s not how any of this works. TV stations are going to tell LSU to frick off.
Tenn/Georgia had almost double the amount of viewers as LSU/Bama. You think CBS or any TV station is going to pass on that because LSU asks them to?
Tenn/Georgia had almost double the amount of viewers as LSU/Bama. You think CBS or any TV station is going to pass on that because LSU asks them to?
This post was edited on 11/8/22 at 3:52 pm
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