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You are an NFL Team owner, you have just fired your coach
Posted on 1/8/25 at 6:48 am
Posted on 1/8/25 at 6:48 am
Where do you find your replacement?
Retread former NFL coach (Carroll, Ryan, etc.)
Current NFL Head Coach for other teams (McCarthy)
College HC?
Young, untested?
Retread former NFL coach (Carroll, Ryan, etc.)
Current NFL Head Coach for other teams (McCarthy)
College HC?
Young, untested?
This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 6:50 am
Posted on 1/8/25 at 7:29 am to udtiger
There’s such wide difference in the candidates in each of your categories. Entirely dependent on the job, foster and front office situation to really make that call
I could convince myself a lot easier of a Pete Carroll retread than I could an Adam Gase retread, for example.
I could convince myself a lot easier of a Pete Carroll retread than I could an Adam Gase retread, for example.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 7:54 am to udtiger
I love how many great coordinators make bad head coaches. What makes you assume being a savant at one side of the ball translates to running a team. These are two very different skills
Posted on 1/8/25 at 8:06 am to udtiger
There have been successes and failures in every such category. It's a genuine crap shoot.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 8:07 am to Germantiger001
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love how many great coordinators make bad head coaches. What makes you assume being a savant at one side of the ball translates to running a team. These are two very different skills
I mean that’s true to some level but what else is supposed to show those skills exactly?
Coordinating an offense or defense is a pretty logical prior step to coordinating an entire team and there’s more to coordinating than play calling.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:16 am to Germantiger001
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I love how many great coordinators make bad head coaches. What makes you assume being a savant at one side of the ball translates to running a team. These are two very different skills
Though I will say, his early Jets teams were bad arse. If he had a good QB, his career would be a lot different. His GM fricked things up in NY.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:04 am to bstaceyau19
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There have been successes and failures in every such category. It's a genuine crap shoot.
Just like QBs. Too many variables for a single pattern.
This applies to the progression in coaching prior to HC, too. Cohen left UK to go back to the LAR and couldn't hack it as OC, so he went back to UK for literally 1 year...then he goes to TB and is now seen as a guru. This is all within like 3-4 years.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:15 am to udtiger
I like to go with the young, sharp, up and coming coordinator.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:24 am to geauxpurple
That's always my default, but I may overemphasize intelligence,
The smartest guys don't always make the best coaches. The psychology of leadership is difficult for super high intelligence types. I think this even affected guys like Bill B early on, and he got better after failure and more time under Parcells (who is apex leadership personified).
When you can get one who has the organizational skill and leadership, you get a McVay. Absolute stud.
When you get one without the leadership, you get a Dennis Allen or Josh McDaniels.
The smartest guys don't always make the best coaches. The psychology of leadership is difficult for super high intelligence types. I think this even affected guys like Bill B early on, and he got better after failure and more time under Parcells (who is apex leadership personified).
When you can get one who has the organizational skill and leadership, you get a McVay. Absolute stud.
When you get one without the leadership, you get a Dennis Allen or Josh McDaniels.
This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 10:25 am
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:29 am to SlowFlowPro
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The smartest guys don't always make the best coaches. The psychology of leadership is difficult for super high intelligence types. I think this even affected guys like Bill B early on, and he got better after failure and more time under Parcells (who is apex leadership personified). When you can get one who has the organizational skill and leadership, you get a McVay. Absolute stud.
Proof right here that Pretty Privilege is real
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:35 am to udtiger
Vrabrel is my pick, even he wasn't so old Pete Carroll would be the obvious other choice
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:36 am to udtiger
Some of it depends on my roster and cap space.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 11:09 am to udtiger
someone with a mind like mcvay, shannan, mcdaniel
Posted on 1/8/25 at 12:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
Seems like Sean Payton learned a thing or two from Parcells.
Shame NO couldn’t keep him.
Shame NO couldn’t keep him.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 1:07 pm to udtiger
If I’m an NFL owner, I hire a GM with a proven background and leave the coaching search up to him, and tell that GM to let the new coach bring in the assistants of their choosing.
I stay out of football operations and just sign the checks.
I stay out of football operations and just sign the checks.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 1:58 pm to Rhio
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If I’m an NFL owner, I hire a GM with a proven background and leave the coaching search up to him, and tell that GM to let the new coach bring in the assistants of their choosing.
I stay out of football operations and just sign the checks.
In other words, maintain status quo ante on Airline Drive. No argument here.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 5:46 pm to Magnus
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someone with a mind like mcvay, shannan, mcdaniel
Congrats. 2 out of 3 of those coaches had a losing record this year.
Posted on 1/8/25 at 8:21 pm to BadatBourre
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Congrats. 2 out of 3 of those coaches had a losing record this year.
And 20+ teams would take any one of them over their current coach in HEARTBEAT. Don’t confuse a bad season with a bad coach.
Compile a list of the top 10 Coaches in the league currently. Find out what they all have in common. Rinse and repeat
Posted on 1/8/25 at 8:28 pm to udtiger
#1. Do i have a future at QB? Assess other teams in my division at that position, along with how many picks, and position they are in.
#2. Am I still paying other HC's that I've fired ? (LV)
#3. Evaluate the GM, and scouting department, along with the draft picks and free agent signings.
#2. Am I still paying other HC's that I've fired ? (LV)
#3. Evaluate the GM, and scouting department, along with the draft picks and free agent signings.
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