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re: Would you consider this guy for a upper tier college HC job?

Posted on 1/3/10 at 1:17 pm to
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 1/3/10 at 1:17 pm to
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Al Groh


winner. FWIW i think JDR would be a good hire; just making the point that on paper AG looked pretty good when UVA hired him.
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 1/3/10 at 1:18 pm to
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just making the point that on paper AG looked pretty good when UVA hired him.


See my edit.

He was two time ACC coach of the year. He wasn't a bad hire for UVA.
Posted by ATLTiger
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Posted on 1/3/10 at 1:22 pm to
Al had the same issue Bobby Bowden had, he promoted his son to OC and it never worked out.
Posted by LSUchick2007
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 1/3/10 at 1:31 pm to
he can hire guys to recruit. i think he would be a good recruiter, can sell the NFL to them, we would go back to being solid defensively and i do think he would like this job, he wanted to talk about it in 2005 and we pay well for head and assistant coaches.
Posted by MSG
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Posted on 1/3/10 at 1:33 pm to
wanna spoon later? My wife will be gone from 3-7
Posted by LSUchick2007
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Posted on 1/3/10 at 1:59 pm to
another positive on del rio is that his staff in jacksonville has lots of college experience that could make a transition smoothe.
dirk koetter his OC was HC at az state
Mike Shula-college HC
Todd Monken-Former LSU assistant
His O-line coach started in college

mel tucker his DC is a former LSU assistant
his d-line coach spent most of his career in college
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 1/3/10 at 2:23 pm to
i'll say this about al groh

if he can bring in top classes early in his career as an old codger, i have no reason to doubt JDR
Posted by drexyl
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 1/3/10 at 2:27 pm to
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i have no reason to doubt JDR
pipe dream at this point though.
Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 1/4/10 at 12:41 am to
NO. AND NO. AND NO. No college coaching experience. He's never recruited one kid. SI.COM is reporting that he would be fired if the owner had the money to spend. He has multiple losing seasons.
Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 1/4/10 at 12:48 am to
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No college coaching experience.


So. Played College ball.

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He's never recruited one kid.


He would have more to offer than most coaches in College.

If the higher ups at LSU would have offered him the job. We would have had JDR.
Posted by LSUchick2007
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 1/4/10 at 1:56 am to
he could keep frank wilson, he can hire assistants to recruit, if im not mistaken he has a super bowl ring and can pitch the " i can get you to the league"...he would be ok. I agree with dad, we could have had him in 2005 and i think maybe its shaping up to be that way in 2010, we cant afford to fire miles, del rio is in same position.
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 1/4/10 at 8:57 am to
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No college coaching experience


It's football.

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He's never recruited one kid.


It's not rocket surgery. Besides you retain Frank Wilson and this is covered.

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He has multiple losing seasons.


So has Bill Parcells, Sean Payton, Bill Bilichick, Jon Gruden, Mike Holmgren, and Bill Cowher.

It's the NFL. Everyone has has losing seasons. Sean Payton has had multiple losing seasons.
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 1/4/10 at 8:57 am to
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we cant afford to fire miles


yeah we can
Posted by SaKi
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Posted on 1/4/10 at 5:19 pm to
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Al Groh


Oh hell no.

Listen, the good years of Al Groh was due to Bill Musgrave (now Falcons QB coach) and Ron Prince (now at Special Teams @ UVA). Musgrave developed Schaub, helped Ron Prince with the offensive play calling, as well as recruited his arse off in PA, NJ, and MD.

Al Groh is a defense-type guy. He runs the 3-4 that develops kids for the NFL but not quite that effective against fast teams. His son was an incompetent OC for years. However, when he left, Groh decided to run a spread which we did not have the damn personnel for. Total moronic move IMO.

Gentlemen, this chic doesn't have any connection to LSU and I'm telling y'all that Groh would be COMPLETELY inept to run an SEC offense. Head coaching job? Helllllllllllllll no.
This post was edited on 1/4/10 at 5:22 pm
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 1/4/10 at 5:30 pm to
Drexyl just brough up Groh in response to Del Rio.

Groh wouldn't be on LSU's radar.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
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Posted on 1/4/10 at 5:37 pm to
quote:

Ron Prince


I'd like him as our OC
Posted by SaKi
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Posted on 1/4/10 at 5:56 pm to
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Drexyl just brough up Groh in response to Del Rio.

Groh wouldn't be on LSU's radar.


I figured as much. I couldn't even see him as a damn waterboy at LSU to be quite honest with you.

Jack Del Rio is a great option IMO, as well as Jeff Fisher and even John Fox (although Carolina said all the coaches have the option to return next season).

Seriously though, Crowton needs to go. The short side option play (I don't know how many games I saw that idiotic crap)?! With the talent LSU has...and I mean, just pure athletic talent and skill, there is no excuse whatsoever to have some of the plays he mustered up.

quote:

Ron Prince I'd like him as our OC


I dunno ATLTiger, he's kinda iffy IMO. Then again, with the recruits that LSU gets year in and year out...the talent that is consistently there...he could work out decently.
Posted by GABlueDog
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/4/10 at 6:01 pm to
I would not piss on Groh if he was on fire.

Hell no.
Posted by LSUDad
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Member since May 2004
62954 posts
Posted on 1/4/10 at 6:03 pm to
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Jack Del Rio is a great option IMO,


Del Rio will be back for the 2010 season. Owner Wayne Weaver owes Del Rio more than $15 million over the next three seasons.
Posted by tygerboy17
NYC
Member since Nov 2009
1365 posts
Posted on 1/4/10 at 6:04 pm to
Del Rio w/ Dirk Coetter comin w/ him>>>>>>>>>>>>> Miles and Crowton
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