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re: Why would michigan go after miles?

Posted on 11/19/09 at 9:55 pm to
Posted by blackjackjackson
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Posted on 11/19/09 at 9:55 pm to
i heard carr didn't want miles and screwed up the hire. i don't think miles will consider mich until carr gets behind the hire.

what no one mentions is that meyer is going to n.d. and fl will hire miles from lsu.

supposedly they just want to give rantards a stroke.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/19/09 at 10:06 pm to
why does lloyd carr hate miles?

how did miles burn bridges in ann arbor?
Posted by um2007
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Posted on 11/19/09 at 10:37 pm to
the rumor is Miles slept with Moellers wife and told kids on the recruiting trail that Lloyd had Parkinsons and wouldn't be the HC at Michigan much longer. I think it's a crock of BS personally. Not to mention there has been 0 evidence to prove either even remotely true. The Miles hire was screwed solely because of timing. Had ESPN not leaked the story he would have been here after you guys won the NC. Lloyd has a say to an extent, more like his opinion is respected, but he doesn't make the ultimate decision, money talks and if the big $$ boosters want Les, they can make the AD listen.
This post was edited on 11/19/09 at 10:46 pm
Posted by Macavity92
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Posted on 11/19/09 at 10:42 pm to
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Saban only had less than 2 losses once


and saban didn't inherit the program equivalent of a ferrari. miles did
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How many losses before he flew the coop in 2004? Exactly. In fact, his last play at LSU was not exactly a thing of beauty.
Posted by mattz1122
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Posted on 11/19/09 at 10:52 pm to
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the rumor is Miles slept with Moellers wife


wowza
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 8:42 am to
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How many losses before he flew the coop in 2004? Exactly.

he was only 4 years into the program

the program wasn't at a point, depth-wise, where we could withstand losing mauck, clayton, and hill early

hell miles is given a pass for last year b/c a QB we all knew would be trouble wasn't here, after miles had 4 years to get QB depth from a top 5 program. saban was building depth from a has been program (until 2003)

the most talented LSU teams were 2005-2007
Posted by BTigerFan
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 9:04 am to
I don't think there is any love lost between Carr and Miles. So long as Carr has an office in the AD, it is going to be tough to get Miles.

As to ESPN being the sole reason for screwing the hire, that is just not true.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 9:06 am to
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As to ESPN being the sole reason for screwing the hire, that is just not true.


well it's the AD's fault ultimately for leaking the info to herbie
Posted by amiznit
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 9:20 am to
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I don't think there is any love lost between Carr and Miles. So long as Carr has an office in the AD, it is going to be tough to get Miles

If the boosters and AD want Miles, they'll tell Carr to frick off.
Posted by specs1
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 9:26 am to
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If the boosters and AD want Miles, they'll tell Carr to back off.


This. Modified for G rating.
Posted by um2007
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 9:28 am to

The hatred between Carr and Miles is pure speculation. There has never been one factual true reason that has come forward as to why there is this supposed long term grudge between the two. At this point the only thing people can offer up is speculation. "Well I heard it's because of Moeller" "I heard it's because of LM trashing Carr" "I heard it's because he was the coordinator at the time and slapped them in the face to leave for Ok State"

I also never said ESPN was the sole reason for screwing the hire. I actually said it was timing, which is true. ESPN leaking the hire was just the icing on the cake.
Like I've said before, money talks up here. Football is this schools cash cow and if big time boosters start threatening to pull funding, especially since we have these boxes to fill, they'll listen. Boosters have more pull than Lloyd, his opinion is respected, but it is not the be all end all.
Posted by The Egg
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 9:44 am to
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the rumor is Miles slept with Moellers wife and told kids on the recruiting trail that Lloyd had Parkinsons and wouldn't be the HC at Michigan much longer. I think it's a crock of BS personally.
Posted by um2007
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 9:46 am to
ya it is comical. Sadly, this is what a lot of people up here are choosing to believe. I am not one of them though so don't kill the messenger lol.
Posted by The Egg
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 9:48 am to
i think its freaking hilarious.
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 9:55 am to
Maybe Les will start slaying Candy Edwards afterall, then Kathy will force him to take another job out of BR.
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 10:05 am to
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He slept with Moeller's wife while Mo was HC and Miles was on staff (and was promptly removed once Lloyd became the coach), and he told recruits on the recruiting trail that Lloyd had Parkinson's and wouldn't be around if they went to Michigan.


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that's not why he stayed home once eugene committed to UM his father (or uncle whichever) was mysteriously released from prison in louisiana. you do the math


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I don't really care about "losing" Les Miles, but I cannot watch LSU anymore since Eugene would probably have given us 1-2 more wins this year.


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Like Jake Shuttlesworth? Psych! Back to the yard, Denzel. Lesson here, kids: don't kill people, murder people, steal from you, steal from me.


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Have it from a pretty good source... that Bo called up Miles to bitch him out about the Jai Eugene recruitment. Eugene was basically coming to Michigan. Don't know if there was any more to it than Miles nabbing a Michigan commit at the last second... i.e. the way he went about it... or what.


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Jesus Christ, can you people get the rumor right? It was Lloyd's wife he's supposed to have slept with and that was what led to Lloyd's divorce.


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Not everyone who trashes Miles is necessarily a RR supporter. It's the faction loyal to Carr that hates him the most. As for whether he actually slept with Moeller's wife, that rumor is virtually impossible to prove or disprove, but it is telling that a number of well-connected people believe it. A still larger number of people maintain that Miles was told confidential information about Lloyd's health (apparently a Parkinson's diagnosis) and then not only didn't keep quiet, but actually used it against Lloyd in recruiting, which is a pretty shocking betrayal if you ask me. It's not hard to understand why Lloyd would want no part of this man in Ann Arbor
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I talked with booster with very old family connections in the program so said the exact same thing over a year ago. I did not probe on the illness mentioned, not sure if it truly is Parkinson's. Considering this person would be considered in the top echelon of Michigan boosters/family connects, I had not reason to doubt him on his word


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Last week the Moeller entry in Wikipedia metioned Miles by name as the cause of the restaurant argument between Moeller and his wife. Yesterday, the reference was gone.

It is a rather interesting concept, though, and would explain a lot. If all of the Miles stuff is true, then he is right where he belongs in Louisiana.


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I think Miles made it clear when he referred to our biggest rival as "Ohio" and proceeded to state "maybe one day, Michigan will win that game again." Nothing like making fun of a team to reiterate "I am not interested." Neither are we a-hole.

Sincerely,

Michigan fans that think Les Miles is a DB


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can you say "horse's arse" I was in school with Les. A purebread horse's arse. Banging someone else's wife, using Parkinsons to recruit against Lloyd, this is the level I expected for Lester.....who I remember as a man who loved working his mullett.
Les aint at Michigan, because he has already been here, so we know what a jerk he is. I would rather go through what we are going through with RichRod than have Les here acting like the messiah.


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miles did nail moeller's wife. he broke the unspoken rule. its a big reason, if not the only reason, he had to go to colorado. its also a big part of the reason lloyd got the head job instead of him when moeller was fired. maybe moeller's wife's infidelity had a little bit to do with him turning into an angry drunk? not hard to imagine. maybe lloyd, bo and others saw les as the reason moeller's life went to crap for a while there and he lost his job? maybe that is why lloyd and others in the know at michigan were so oppposed to miles getting the job? he broke the biggest unspoken rule amongst coaches of the same staff. there was no way he'd be welcomed back into the circle.

but, because of his enormous success at lsu, and the lack of knowledge amongst most alumni donors to the situation, there was a great push to hire miles. lloyd and others in the know wanted nothing of it. martin had to to do SOMETHING to appeal to the calls of the alumni. and so goes the scheme.

desmond howard, a member of the search committee, breaks the story to idiot osu alum (a perk) and fellow espn crew member herbstreit that miles will be offered, and will accept the uofm game on the morning of the sec championship game. bill martin is, coincidentally, on a sail boat without a cell phone for the entire day. miles is faced with these rumors. the lsu administration is telling him, "right now, in or out." he doesnt know if he will or will not be offered the michigan job. he cannot contact bill martin. lloyd and others ignore his phone calls, if there were any. stay at lsu, win a national championship, or possibly be out of any job!?!?!?!

les miles makes that stupid speech, pledges his allegiance to lsu, denies the rumors, herby looks like an idiot, miles is out of the race, no one knows about the moeller situation, all is well...michigan pursues its real candidates.


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This post was edited on 11/20/09 at 10:06 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 10:08 am to
yeah miles broke the unspoken rules of big10 recruiting and tried to recruit a kid not committed to his school

rich rod got shite for that last year also

that's how pussy teh big10 is
Posted by um2007
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 10:11 am to
Mgoblog lol. Brian runs a good blog, but the people who comment on there are not exactly objective these days. If this had been a post from 2007 then I could understand, but this is very recent so I'd take it with a grain of salt. They hate anyone who speaks of the potential of RR being fired and hate on anyone that could be mentioned as a possible replacement. If you even show a tiny bit of dissent with the direction this program is going, they jump down your throat. Just yesterday some guy was just looking to talk, said he didn't know if he could watch the game because he didn't know how much more heartbreak he could take. They proceeded to tell him he was disloyal, a fair weather fan, a band wagoner etc. Not to mention most people who post on there (except maybe Brian, who runs the blog, who didn't post thread you linked) have zero connections to the higher ups at that school.
This post was edited on 11/20/09 at 11:39 am
Posted by Sophandros
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 10:11 am to
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Why would michigan go after miles?


Because he is teh awesome.
Posted by Cash
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Posted on 11/20/09 at 10:23 am to
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Miles slept with Moellers wife


Pics of Moeller's (ex-)wife

just saying
This post was edited on 11/20/09 at 10:27 am
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