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re: Why is Herman quitting on his team a good thing?
Posted on 10/28/16 at 9:10 pm to John Cena
Posted on 10/28/16 at 9:10 pm to John Cena
quote:Yep. Coaches do this all the time. I wouldn't use the word "quit" per say. Sometimes players and/or coaches just kind of lose focus because of the distraction.
Saban did the same thing versus Iowa before he jetted to the NFL
I'm not saying that's 100% what's happening in this case, but if it is, it's not like it's the first time it's ever happened.
ETA: Herman has already told the media that he's had to have meetings with his players about it. That is what you call a distraction plain and simple.
This post was edited on 10/28/16 at 9:20 pm
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Posted on 10/28/16 at 9:10 pm to Sevendust912
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"Herman doesn't care about this season he has already taken (insert job here) and is just going through the motions"
really? I haven't seen those
personally I think the writing is on the wall, and that has it's effects on a locker room
Posted on 10/28/16 at 9:17 pm to John Cena
Yeah... that's the point I was making.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 9:23 pm to mattz1122
Cause he is too busy getting his purple and gold wardrobe ready.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 9:30 pm to John Cena
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Saban did the same thing versus Iowa before he jetted to the NFL
LSU was winning the Iowa bowl game until the final play on an obvious blown holding call on Iowa. Houston got their arse kicked by SMU the whole game. I would not compare the two games.
SMU will not be in a bowl game this year. Whether the players at Houston have quit on Tom or Tom has quit on the players this is a bad sign for the coach.
Posted on 10/28/16 at 9:52 pm to Tiger Ree
I think he is a bright young coach. That being said, I'm sick of hearing about that chick fil a bowl win against an FSU team with a backup qb, that didn't wanna be there.
Posted on 10/29/16 at 12:28 am to higgins
Anyone wonder if Ed Oliver will follow Herman wherever he goes?
Posted on 10/29/16 at 4:53 am to mattz1122
quote:They didn't. People act like Herman built that program. He didn't. Even the coach he took over for had a winning record. Tony Levine went 8-5, 8-5, 5-7. Before that Houston had Kevin Sumlin and Art Briles before him. Sumlin went 13-1 in his last season before aTm hired him. He didn't seem to allow all of the coaching changes talk affect his season, so Tom Herman doesn't get a mulligan for his.
How badly did UH suck without Herman?
All that "the players don't care anymore" and "he's distracted by job offers" is absolute bullshite. If by any chance it is true, I sure as hell don't want a coach that can't maintain focus and keep his players motivated enough to beat SMU. Hell, they didn't even come close to beating SMU!
This post was edited on 10/29/16 at 4:57 am
Posted on 10/29/16 at 5:06 am to Laman1978
quote:seriously - there are better excuses than 'the coaches/players quit midseason' that they could have come up with that don't make Herman look like a terrible coach.
They didn't. People act like Herman built that program. He didn't. Even the coach he took over for had a winning record. Tony Levine went 8-5, 8-5, 5-7. Before that Houston had Kevin Sumlin and Art Briles before him. Sumlin went 13-1 in his last season before aTm hired him. He didn't seem to allow all of the coaching changes talk affect his season, so Tom Herman doesn't get a mulligan for his.
All that "the players don't care anymore" and "he's distracted by job offers" is absolute bull shite. If by any chance it is true, I sure as hell don't want a coach that can't maintain focus and keep his players motivated enough to beat SMU. Hell, they didn't even come close to beating SMU!
Posted on 10/29/16 at 5:09 am to drexyl
quote:I think some people just get stuck on a name and can't let go. I suppose I'm guilty of it too with Jimbo Fisher. At least Fisher has a much longer and more successful resume than Herman though!
seriously - there are better excuses than 'the coaches/players quit midseason' that they could have come up with that don't make Herman look like a terrible coach.
Posted on 10/29/16 at 6:02 am to John Cena
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Saban did the same thing versus Iowa before he jetted to the NFL
Missed holding call. He didn't quit.
Posted on 10/29/16 at 6:57 am to Sevendust912
Herman is the best coach available, don't think he quit on the team but he is distracted. WHICH means less focused on small details.
I think the players see this and they too are distracted and making errors on the field which have resulted in sloppy plays. Watching them over the past couple of weeks they don't appear to be the same team as earlier this year.
With a coach like Herman those kids know he is leaving when before they thought he would stay.
I think the players see this and they too are distracted and making errors on the field which have resulted in sloppy plays. Watching them over the past couple of weeks they don't appear to be the same team as earlier this year.
With a coach like Herman those kids know he is leaving when before they thought he would stay.
This post was edited on 10/29/16 at 7:00 am
Posted on 10/29/16 at 7:00 am to emanresu
Lsu was sloppy against Iowa, should have never come down to that play
Posted on 10/29/16 at 7:46 am to tduecen
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Herman is the best coach available, don't think he quit on the team but he is distracted. WHICH means less focused on small details.
I think the players see this and they too are distracted and making errors on the field which have resulted in sloppy plays
If he has not signed on a dotted line there is no guarantee he is leaving.
I for one was glad when Nick Saban left LSU. Like sayonara MF'er. Thanks for what you did, don't let the door hit you in the arse on the way out. "We hate to see you go, we hate to see you go, what the hell you waitin for, we hate to see you go."
Don't get me wrong, I liked Nick as a coach and damn sure appreciated what he did for the program while he was here. BUT, got damn I always wondered if the guy didn't hire a PR firm before he hired an agent. Every time a NFL coaching job came open, Nick's was one of the first names mentioned. Off season, during the season, didn't matter. Like WTF Nick is a PR firm doing this shite or are you personally writing letters to the teams and every media outlet in the US of A.
Even with Nick's NFL PR campaigns relentlessly churning speculation of which NFL job he would accept, LSU's football team still did pretty damn good the whole time he was here.
If I was coach of a team about to play Herman I would just start rumors about the guy the week before we played. Like his wife cheats on him, he is gay, his mother used to have sex for money or a multitude of others. If the guy can't handle rumors of him leaving and getting his team to play well, any other menial distraction would cause the same thing or worse. Death of family member, friend, etc.
Posted on 10/29/16 at 12:31 pm to Sevendust912
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Herman supporters, mainly UT and LSU fans, please explain how a coach quitting on his team is a positive..
It isn't at all and anyone with any common sense knows that. But the bigger question is; has the team quit on Herman because they know he is gone, or has Herman quit on the team because he knows he is gone?
My personal opinion is; the team has quit on Herman not Herman quitting on the team because of the exact reason you have pointed out. If Herman did quit on the team and got out how do you think Herman's potential suitors would feel about that?
Posted on 10/29/16 at 1:03 pm to John Cena
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He didnt know he was going to the dolphins until the end of the season fyi
According to the reports, He had the dolphins offer on the table for about 6 weeks and took too long to finally decide to take it. This is why we were left with miles as a choice since all the other coaches were off the table by that time.
Posted on 10/29/16 at 1:38 pm to Sevendust912
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It is, however, a common message that I see on this board so I thought it would be something worth discussing.
I'm one of those who has said it. It thought I was pretty clear that my message was sarcastic in nature. Can't speak for the others...
Posted on 10/29/16 at 1:40 pm to Dudebro2
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But the bigger question is; has the team quit on Herman because they know he is gone, or has Herman quit on the team because he knows he is gone?
My personal opinion is; the team has quit on Herman not Herman quitting on the team because of the exact reason you have pointed out. If Herman did quit on the team and got out how do you think Herman's potential suitors would feel about that?
Or maybe with half a season down opponents are starting to figure out how to defend the RPO-centric offense Houston runs.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 3:11 pm to Eman5805
I think Oliver stays around because of his brother and former hs coach being there
Posted on 10/30/16 at 3:17 pm to Tiger Ree
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If I was coach of a team about to play Herman I would just start rumors about the guy the week before we played. Like his wife cheats on him, he is gay, his mother used to have sex for money or a multitude of others.
You sound like a quality person of good character. Wow...i have never seen someone with this much hatred in their heart for a frickin football coach.
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