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re: Why does Matt Campbell get a free pass to mediocrity because "It's Iowa State"?
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:00 pm to MSTiger61
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:00 pm to MSTiger61
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He is like Mullen was at state. Beats a few teams he shouldn't and loses to a few teams he shouldn't. Shouldn't be considered over many others.
Ahh good one. Exceeds expectations at a historical doormat, parlays adequate success to a higher tier program and.....
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:01 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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So yall are willing to accept a coach floating .500 because Iowa State is historically shitty. A caterpillar can barely play limbo under that low bar.
You seem like a very progressive thinker.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:01 pm to Lsuhoohoo
iowast is the type of program that dan mullen padded his record with at missst.
let that sink in.
let that sink in.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:02 pm to IowaCityTigerFan
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Winning 9 games at Iowa State should give him the presidency.
What about winning 12 at Kansas? Mangiant is still out there.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:02 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Was rinsed by Napier fwiw
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:02 pm to Lsuhoohoo
If you're doing this because you want Napier, this all makes sense. Otherwise, no. 

Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:02 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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A regular line on this board is that Lincoln Riley wouldn't be an impressive hire. The 53-9 record isn't impressive because he beats up on a weak Big 12 and then sharts himself in the playoff.
regular?
Come on. Anyone bashing Riley is in the minority.
You don't need to go there to make your point on Campbell. These coaching searches are a complete crap shoot. Who had Herman and Mullen failing in year 4?
I think the better argument against Campbell is that his type of program and coaching work with the type of kids who end up at Iowa State.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:03 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Matt Campbell wasn’t a career OC. Smart people gave him a shot to be a head coach at 31 and ta power 5 gave him a shot at 35.
He won at both places. Turned them both around.. in his 30s.
You’ve got not one other candidate that can say they have done that.
He won at both places. Turned them both around.. in his 30s.
You’ve got not one other candidate that can say they have done that.
This post was edited on 11/22/21 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:03 pm to Lsuhoohoo
You know that’s not a good comparison
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:03 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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So yall are willing to accept a coach floating .500 because Iowa State is historically shitty. A caterpillar can barely play limbo under that low bar.
No. Intelligent see beyond numbers. It is like USL idiots claiming Napier is a great recruiter since he has signed the number 1 recruiting class in the Sun Belt 3 years in a row yet has a -2 point differential versus teams that are a combined 23-36 where only one of them is at .500 group of 5, 1 P-5 and one FCS (who surprisingly has a winning record).
That is 5 of the wins this season and the 1 loss.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:04 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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So yall are willing to accept a coach floating .500 because Iowa State is historically shitty. A caterpillar can barely play limbo under that low bar.
what a stupid comment, he's won more at Iowa State than pretty much anyone has won there. That doesn't automatically translate into dominance at a better school of course but its all relative
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:05 pm to Jwho77
I'm an Aranda man. Year 2 he's going to exceed Campbells greatest season ever (which also included a blowout loss to Napier)
Stay away from Matt Mullen
Stay away from Matt Mullen
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:06 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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2016 3-9
2017 8-5
2018 8-5
2019 7-6
2020 9-3
2021 6-5
Nick Saban at Michigan State
6-5-1
6-6
7-5
6-6
9-2
Saban's record didn't light the world on fire. Finding coaches that overachieve is a good sign of probable success. Campbell fits the bill, and he feels a bit like the Jay Johnson hire. We'll see soon enough.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:06 pm to Lsuhoohoo
You want to claim LSU is a top 5 job because it has every resource needed to win, but then you want to hold it against a guy that he hasn't won big at a place that doesn't have those resources.
Make up your mind. Do you want a coach, or a name.
Make up your mind. Do you want a coach, or a name.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:07 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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A regular line on this board is that Lincoln Riley wouldn't be an impressive hire. The 53-9 record isn't impressive because he beats up on a weak Big 12 and then sharts himself in the playoff. But Matt Campbell seems to be seen as an acceptable hire with a near .500 record in that same Big 12 Riley plays in.
If Campbell is competitive its "dude look what he's done at Iowa State!" If his team falls flat on their face from pre-season top 10 to 6-6 or 7-5 like they did just this year, it's "dude it's Iowa State. That he had them in the top 10 to begin with speaks volumes." So he's got a built in excuse for his coaching failure.
2016 3-9
2017 8-5
2018 8-5
2019 7-6
2020 9-3
2021 6-5
41-33 (30-23)
Meeeeehhhhhh. I understand Iowa States history and what they are. But a coach who can make them a 7-5 bowl team doesn't sparkle as a gem of a coach.
With your rationale we would've never hired Saban.
His winning percentage at Michigan St was 58%, Campbell's is 55% at Iowa St.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:07 pm to Lsuhoohoo
He made Riley shite in his pants this past Saturday. He has actually been a bit of a thorn in OU's side. Always seems to place them close, and has beaten them at least once. And that was at....
...you guessed it! I-O-W-A S-T-A-T-E.
...you guessed it! I-O-W-A S-T-A-T-E.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:08 pm to Lsuhoohoo
So he's just picking up after what Rhule built then. The fact is, Baylor is 10 times easier to recruit to and win at than Iowa State. When Campbell leaves there, the Cyclones will be back in the toilet for decades.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:08 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Conference records at Iowa State:
Matt Campbell 30-23
The guy before him 16-45
Before that guy 2-14
Before that 27-68
To do that in his late 30's is very impressive.
Matt Campbell 30-23
The guy before him 16-45
Before that guy 2-14
Before that 27-68
To do that in his late 30's is very impressive.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:09 pm to IowaCityTigerFan
1) Big12 is a joke.
2) Cristobal is mediocre.
2) Cristobal is mediocre.
Posted on 11/22/21 at 4:09 pm to jgriffith
Matt Campbell HC
B.O.B OC
Brent Pry DC
B.O.B OC
Brent Pry DC
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