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Who is gonna go after UAB's Bill Clark?
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:37 am
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:37 am
Dude is clearly a top notch coach and if resurrecting a program for the dead to play for a title in two years isn't a program builder then nothing is.
Who is the one to take a chance on Clark?
Who is the one to take a chance on Clark?
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:41 am to bamarep
UNC this year or Ole Miss next year (after 2019). Coaches like him need to build steam in the coaching recruitment circles (like Herman and Frost did previously). He will be a great coach in the correct circumstances, but he needs to choose wisely. Fedora did some great things at USM. He ran with the first Power 5 offer he received (UNC) and has to be regretting it now. Clark should take a page out of that playbook and not repeat. He needs to choose wisely.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:47 am to go ta hell ole miss
he could sit tight and wait for a SEC opening next year. vandy or OM could be available. whoever hires him is going to get a helluva coach.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 11:17 am to 1999
I’d kill to have him at Ole Miss but I’m not sure if he’d be willing to leave Alabama. I want to say that I read somewhere that Clark didn’t want to leave Alabama because of his state pension.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 11:27 am to Peter Venkman
i'm sure his OM head coach salary would more than make up for it.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 11:28 am to bamarep
He's waiting on Bama job when Saban bolts for Packers
Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:41 pm to nicholastiger
Given the drama behind the death of football at UAB, I doubt that the UAB coach gets the gig in Tuscaloosa.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:11 pm to teke184
He’s a great coach but he’s not ready for the SEC. He will upgrade to a mid major or if lucky he lands somewhere like Iowa State or Cincinnati after the carousel stops turning. Two or three good years in a place like that and he might get a crack at somewhere like Ole Miss or Miss State. UNC would be a stretch but possible.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 12:07 am to bamarep
He stayed when we didn't even have a program, and he had offers. I don't think he's going to bolt for the first middling P5 job that comes along. Or I hope, in any case.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 7:58 am to Peter Venkman
He is like 1 or 2 years away from reaching the pension. No way he leaves before then.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 8:16 am to Peter Venkman
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Clark didn’t want to leave Alabama because of his state pension.
That can't be more than the millions he could make in the SEC. Or am I being obtuse about that?
ETA Just talked to someone who said he's already reached his pension.
This post was edited on 11/21/18 at 8:22 am
Posted on 11/21/18 at 8:52 am to chew4219
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He is like 1 or 2 years away from reaching the pension. No way he leaves before then.
Trading in a $3.5-$4million multi-year coaching contract for an Alabama state pension that he can secure later on if he fails in the bigs? (And for which Alabama may give him credit for working in another state’s system.)
Alabama logic, folks.
If a potential head coach hire is that dumb, I’m not sure that I want him at my school. Seriously. But I don’t think this is the case with Bill Clark, and if he’s said that, it’s a smokescreen for something else.
Ole Miss needs him or Neal Brown.
This post was edited on 11/21/18 at 8:55 am
Posted on 11/21/18 at 9:34 am to DownSouthJukin
The dude is going to make 60% of his highest state funded salary for the rest of his life. That will be more than 4 or 5 million.
He’s looking at a minimum of $250k a year in retirement plus medical benefits.
He’s looking at a minimum of $250k a year in retirement plus medical benefits.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 9:56 am to sicboy
It’s 2.3% per year of employment at the highest 5 yr average attained salary. I’m sure there is a state capped salary and all additional salary is raised by boosters. In Louisiana I think the state capped salary is $350k.
46% @ 20 years $161,000
57.5% @ 25 years $201,000
69% @ 30 years $241,000
Or something similar to that.
46% @ 20 years $161,000
57.5% @ 25 years $201,000
69% @ 30 years $241,000
Or something similar to that.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:52 am to chew4219
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The dude is going to make 60% of his highest state funded salary for the rest of his life. That will be more than 4 or 5 million.
He’s looking at a minimum of $250k a year in retirement plus medical benefits.
If he has not met his time requirements in the state system, and he fails at the top level, he can get a job back in Alabama after he fails and then fulfill the time requirements-and receive his 60% at his old UAB coaching level-or whatever his new job may pay, which may be higher.
"Hey guys, I'm gonna keep working for the state instead of taking a job that will pay me 100x what I'm making working for the state because I want that state retirement, which I can probably get later, anyway. And guess what? If my coaching abilities tank next year before I can take a power 5 job, and I lose all prospect of coaching at the power 5 level, I still got that sweet state retirement."
Strike while the iron's hot.
This post was edited on 11/21/18 at 10:54 am
Posted on 11/21/18 at 10:57 am to nicholastiger
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He's waiting on Bama job when Saban bolts for Packers
If Saban were to retire soon, I'd take Clark in a second.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 11:31 am to bamarep
I was all in on Clark when he called y’all UA-Tuscaloosa
Posted on 11/21/18 at 12:49 pm to pvilleguru
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If Saban were to retire soon, I'd take Clark in a second.
That makes two former Lions that would.
Posted on 11/21/18 at 4:19 pm to sicboy
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That can't be more than the millions he could make in the SEC. Or am I being obtuse about that?
After three years of his new contract at UAB, his pension will jump by several hundred thousand dollars per year.
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ETA Just talked to someone who said he's already reached his pension.
This is his 28th year in the system, yes, but the multiple will be based on his highest 3 years salary in the past five. The difference is huge. He might be looking at a $100k pension right now, but WELL over $500k by 2021.
For perspective, this year and the next two, he will make at least 25% more in salary and incentives than Jay Jacobs did his last few years. Jacobs retired making $540k per year from his pension. That could conceivably put Clark in the $650k (or more) per year range.
Both Clark and Jacobs were hired before the 1996 law that caps state pensions at $270k, and are grandfathered in to the uncapped pension.
I'm sure Clark would leave if it were a $3.5 mil at Ole Miss like DSJ says, but I'm not sure OM would pay that to a guy from Conference USA.
This post was edited on 11/21/18 at 7:25 pm
Posted on 11/21/18 at 7:00 pm to Evolved Simian
A $500k plus a year pension is huge. Especially when he will be a god to many in the state of Alabama.
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