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What does "running a program" mean?
Posted on 11/2/16 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 11/2/16 at 2:30 pm
This seems to be the negative when the anti O group starts talking. What does this actually mean though? I've head this week those in AR talking about Bielema and how he lets his assistants coach (sounds familiar) and he oversees and "runs the program".
Outside of booster talks, recruiting, and practice/game preparation; what are we talking about? Not trying to be coy, Coach O would be behind Jimbo and Herman regardless but this keeps coming up and when I heard again in relation to AR thought I would submit myself to the dagger that is this board.
Outside of booster talks, recruiting, and practice/game preparation; what are we talking about? Not trying to be coy, Coach O would be behind Jimbo and Herman regardless but this keeps coming up and when I heard again in relation to AR thought I would submit myself to the dagger that is this board.
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Posted on 11/2/16 at 2:32 pm to CAT
It's clearly a myth. Coaches don't do anything outside of the 3 months of football season. If we sign a coach for a year contract we should technically get 4 seasons out of it. Can we get a lawyer to look into this?
Posted on 11/2/16 at 2:37 pm to CAT
Well, creating and maintaining a good academic culture, creaing and maintaining a culture of compliance, hiring good support staff, hiring good coaching staff, managing and operating within your budget. Thats just a few of the things that go along with running a program. I am sure there are hundreds more. Do you think HC's just coach football?
Posted on 11/2/16 at 2:38 pm to CAT
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What does "running a program" mean?
Setting overall game strategy, how we approach different opponents from a 10,000 ft. view. Looking at/assessing strengths over the season and understanding how to put your coaches and thereby your team, into an environment where they can produce.
Understanding your resource allocation and manpower, how to hire well, interview well, and get the best out of a staff.
Understanding long term vision and strategy. Knowing inputs and outputs scaled, planning for a realistic set of outcomes based on team personnel and coach personnel.
We could go on and on.
This is not showing up to a game week to week and executing a few plays.
You aren't just a coach, you're a manager, a strategist, and the best coaches understand and know how to deploy resources effectively. I said this early on, but there's a reason great coaches often have great coaching trees. They know how to put the people below in a position to succeed, in particular, coaches.
I trust O with probably none of the above things outside of recruiting. He does not strike me as a great manager or a strategist.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 2:39 pm to adamb2151
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Well, creating and maintaining a good academic culture, creaing and maintaining a culture of compliance, hiring good support staff, hiring good coaching staff, managing and operating within your budget. Thats just a few of the things that go along with running a program. I am sure there are hundreds more. Do you think HC's just coach football?
No, I'm sure much more than I would think but these are good, thanks
Posted on 11/2/16 at 3:06 pm to CAT
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What does "running a program" mean?
It means running 1975 offense and big cat drills for more than $100,000 a week.
This post was edited on 11/2/16 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:27 pm to Freauxzen
Everything you stated about putting people in the best positions to succeed and getting the best out of staff-Orgeron has clearly done thus far.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 4:36 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Keeping donors happy, too.
Posted on 11/2/16 at 5:25 pm to Tiguar
How you run it
Posted on 11/2/16 at 7:14 pm to CAT
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the anti O group
I prefer to call them "O negatives"
Posted on 11/3/16 at 2:11 am to CAT
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What does "running a program" mean?
Posted on 11/3/16 at 2:18 am to Grim
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I prefer to call them "O negatives"
Universal donors.
Posted on 11/3/16 at 2:32 am to Mickey Goldmill
Recruiting is much more complex as well. O has previously been instructed/approved to recruit certain players. But recruiting as the HC means building on your weak points vs getting the best available.
Everyone knows you take every 5 star you can get, but that's usually 1 or 2 a year. The rest have to be very strategically recruited based on the overall build of the team. We have now idea of O I'd good at this or not.
Everyone knows you take every 5 star you can get, but that's usually 1 or 2 a year. The rest have to be very strategically recruited based on the overall build of the team. We have now idea of O I'd good at this or not.
quote:true, but in a tiny window. He hasn't been faced with any real important decisions. Firing cameron, hiring pete, and getting ensminger to Oc were all about as obvious as could be.
Everything you stated about putting people in the best positions to succeed and getting the best out of staff-Orgeron has clearly done thus far.
Posted on 11/3/16 at 9:22 am to CAT
It means being the head coach, GM, HR dept, scouting dept head, business manager, parent, and High school principal/disciplinarian.
Posted on 11/3/16 at 11:29 am to SportTiger1
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Recruiting is much more complex as well. O has previously been instructed/approved to recruit certain players. But recruiting as the HC means building on your weak points vs getting the best available.
Everyone knows you take every 5 star you can get, but that's usually 1 or 2 a year. The rest have to be very strategically recruited based on the overall build of the team. We have now idea of O I'd good at this or not.
This is the recruiting coordinator's job, alongside the head coach. He's very good at it. It's called "setting the board", and Orgeron has been trusted with it at some of the biggest programs in the country.
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He hasn't been faced with any real important decisions. Firing cameron, hiring pete, and getting ensminger to Oc were all about as obvious as could be.
Hindsight is 20/20. If I would have taken a poll after Miles was fired I bet at least 50% of people would have wanted Dameyune Craig to be interim OC. With him having Co-OC experience at Auburn and is known to be a fan of wide open offenses, no one would have batted an eye. Ensminger was essentially forgotten about on our staff, and the reaction when he was named was "wtf?" almost across the board here.
To answer the OP, "running a program" on this board means anything someone doesn't think Orgeron can do, taylored to fit whatever argument is being batted around at the time. In reality, according to a lot of sources very close to the program, he's actually doing an outstanding job of it, and is treating this job like he's going to have it for a very long time. Obviously he hasn't done it for an extended period of time, and that's a fair point, but he has demonstrated so far he's not just concerned with the near future (which by the way would be very tempting for someone in his position). He is trying to build something long term until they tell him to stop. Whoever the next coach is, he's going to be handed what I believe is a blueprint for massive success at LSU.
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