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re: UNC football coaching candidates: Jon Sumrall, Arthur Smith and more names to watch

Posted on 11/27/24 at 10:30 am to
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 11/27/24 at 10:30 am to
Anyone who takes the UNC job will likely get more NIL guarantees than Mack had. If that happens this is a great job.

Schumann can stay at UGA for a few more seasons and be in play for the Bama job when it opens again.
Posted by rollthatback
Member since Jun 2008
3074 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 11:27 am to
I think Sumrall is setting himself up to have the pick of the litter for a big SEC job. LSU/OU/Florida, hell maybe even Bama could all be open over the next couple of years.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
7502 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 11:43 am to
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don’t know know if Schumann makes sense for this one.


You obviously know Schumann better than I do. I would think UNC would be a good job for a top coordinator with no SEC jobs opening. Relatively low expectations at UNC, and if you do well, you have a solid path to the ACCCG.

Regarding Arthur Smith, he's an interesting choice. Not a great head coach in the NFL, because he can't develop a QB. But, I'm a big fan of his run schemes and OL development. But is UNC the place to install some road graders? Can he recruit? I think he's purely an NFL guy, but if I'm a UNC fan, this is a name I'm going to really be interested in.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45374 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 12:50 pm to
Yeah, unless they have a major change in commitment, I can say that is an upgrade for those guys. Lea is iffy, but I would rather be in Nashville is Vandy commits to the program.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54861 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 2:39 pm to
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Go after guys that bigger teams will want, until you're not a stepping stone to UNC, you're a stepping stone to Ohio State or LSU.


Tulane would have to draw a lot more fans per game to get to that level
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 3:33 pm to
LSU is not opening in the next couple
of years
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10360 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:13 pm to
Yeah 2 years max and LSU will be open. I think we’ll be open too.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
79943 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 4:25 pm to
Arthur Smith also brings the Fed Ex NIL checkbook
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
10069 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 5:08 pm to
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In the past when things like this happen, there is a tendency to switch gears and go after guys that will stay at Tulane. That's the wrong way obviously.

Go after guys that bigger teams will want, until you're not a stepping stone to UNC, you're a stepping stone to Ohio State or LSU.


You do realize that Tulane hired Sumrall after Fritz left? I don't think Tulane expects Sumrall to be there for a lifetime. I believe that the athletic department is starting to listen to certain donors now that in the past Tulane wouldn't even have entertained them.

If Sumrall stays another year and keeps things rolling it will be a very attractive job for up and coming coaches. Even if Sumrall left after this season it's still in a good spit to hire a good coach.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
16617 posts
Posted on 11/27/24 at 8:45 pm to
This job would be more Brian Kelly’s speed
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
8368 posts
Posted on 11/28/24 at 6:46 am to
alot of you are delusional if you think Sumrall would turn down UNC to stay at Tulane. going to UNC does not prevent him from landing a future SEC job down the road, smarten up folks
Posted by Downeast12
Member since Jun 2022
1032 posts
Posted on 11/28/24 at 9:51 am to
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The high school talent in NC isn't setting the world on fire.


The SEC East and Clemson have been poaching NC talent forever. They all get spread out amongst all the NC schools and southeast.
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
10069 posts
Posted on 11/28/24 at 10:24 am to
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Tulane would have to draw a lot more fans per game to get to that level


I believe that the poster was saying that Tulane should keep hiring guys like Sumrall. Hire them from smaller programs and eventually a bigger program will hire them.
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
7378 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 10:14 am to
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Arthur Smith also brings the Fed Ex NIL checkbook


Only problem is that he brings Arthur Smith with it.
Posted by Optimism
Member since Jun 2024
924 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 11:08 am to
Better to stay at Tulane and wait for big SEC job just like Kirby turned down lower SEC jobs until Georgia opened up.
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
10069 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 12:00 pm to
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alot of you are delusional if you think Sumrall would turn down UNC to stay at Tulane. going to UNC does not prevent him from landing a future SEC job down the road, smarten up folks


Willie Fritz turned down Power jobs. Chris Peterson stayed with Boise St for 8 season before he left.

Going to North Carolina may not prevent him from getting an SEC job down the road but also staying at Tulane wouldn't prevent him either. He could stay at Tulane until the school/situation he finds attractive opens up.

I don't think or expect Sumrall to stay at Tulane long term. He might think North Carolina is a great opening/situation he might want to wait for Kentucky to open up.

Tulane is in a better situation now to win consistently than it was 10 years ago where a coach doesn't have to take the first opening to get out of a bad situation.
Posted by Muahahaha
Ohio
Member since Nov 2005
6980 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 9:14 pm to
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I don't think that UNC is much better than Iowa State in some ways, but Campbell better start planning his escape from Ames before he gets stuck there.


Plus, much better winters in Chapel Hill than in Ames.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
9808 posts
Posted on 11/29/24 at 11:37 pm to
UNC is going to return to the cellar, and they’ll deserve it for having kicked their winningest head coach ever to the curb.
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